mrvmax wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:55 pm I disagree, I don’t think the police need reform. I think the things we’ve seen are the minority and without 24/7 media trying to get the highest ratings we wouldn’t even know about those. If the police where you live need reformed I suggest you move. I agree with most of the first part of what you say here, but disagree somewhat with the last sentence. In some cases, reform may not be possible, but in some cases it it might be. If it is possible, shouldn’t you stay and make things better where you are?
Civil war will not fix the problems, it will only cause more unnecessary death. You may be willing to give up your life in an attempt to “fix” things but I don’t think that’s your best option. I agree that civil war isn’t a great option, and that it will kill a lot of people who have done nothing wrong other than to be either too weak or unprepared to fight. But as undesirable as it is, it may be forced on you anyway. So while I don’t advocate for it, I do say that one ought to be (literally) prepared for its possibility.
Am I going to stand by if they went through my neighborhood looting and burning? Probably not but I’m pretty confident my local police are not going to let it get to that point. I’m pretty sure if they got overwhelmed by numbers there would be plenty of my neighbors stepping in to back them up. i would certainly hope that to be the case in large parts of Texas....but I have trouble believing it would be the case in the larger metropolitan areas.
We’ve got a country that can come together when things like 911 happen. What we really need are leaders who are more concerned about getting us united again than they are getting re-elected or increasing their bank accounts. I agree, but I’m not convinced that very many such politicians exist.
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- Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:55 pm
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Re: "militias"
Here’s some counterpoints, respectfully offered....
- Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm
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Re: "militias"
I understand what you’re saying, but I’d quibble on some of the finer points.....
1. You don’t have to be "deputized" to be in the militia. The unorganized militia is already defined in 10 U.S. Code § 246 (b) (2) as: "... the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia." (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246)
2. As I understand it, Posse Comitatus prevents POTUS from federalizing Nat'l Guard troops unless asked for by the governor of the state in question; and unless asked for, the governor controls his/her state's Nat'l Guard. The governors of the affected states are all leftists who side with the rioters, hate Trump, and would never ask for that kind of help from him......which is a major reason why, weeks later, cities like Portland are still burning.
1. You don’t have to be "deputized" to be in the militia. The unorganized militia is already defined in 10 U.S. Code § 246 (b) (2) as: "... the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia." (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246)
2. As I understand it, Posse Comitatus prevents POTUS from federalizing Nat'l Guard troops unless asked for by the governor of the state in question; and unless asked for, the governor controls his/her state's Nat'l Guard. The governors of the affected states are all leftists who side with the rioters, hate Trump, and would never ask for that kind of help from him......which is a major reason why, weeks later, cities like Portland are still burning.