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KLB wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:58 pm What bothers me about fentanyl is that it's so dangerous that I don't understand how anyone works with it. Getting it into a hollow point without killing yourself seems more trouble than it's worth.

Yeah, I think it’s an urban legend

narcissist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:23 pm

RSX11 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:25 am Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

In english thats "The world wants to be deceived, so", weird comment but think I understand.

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RSX11 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:25 am Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

Exactly.

narcissist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:08 am

bbhack wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:41 am This is a movie plot threat. Something that will not happen, but that gets people worked up.

This is an example of giving your enemies power over you by imbuing them with all the things you're scared of.

So if someone first hand saw people loading this into bullets that wouldn't count?

Yeah I agree to never let anyone have power over you expecially with things someone 'knowingly' scares you.

I figured this would of been just disregarded, believe what you want but if for some reason someone does get shot and has little pain and starts to pass out (without major blood loss). Might try Narcan wouldn't hurt anyway, may delay pain relief when administered at the ER.

Then again what do I know?

Try watching Live PD or Live Rescue, and you’ll find out your not exactly right. It doesn’t matter that Fentanyl is a synthetic. So are some other opiates like Tramidol, for instance. But chemistry is chemistry, whether it’s natural or synthetic, and a Fentanyl overdose is absolutely reversible with Narcan. The problem with Fentanyl not that it’s untreatable; it's that it’s fairly fast acting, and it can take a LOT of Narcan to reverse it. In some cases, with larger doses of Fentanyl, first responders might not arrive in time to administer the antidote drug and the patient expires. But point of fact, that can happen with heroin and OxyContin and other opiates too....just to a lesser degree.

https://www.thefix.com/narcan-resistant ... or-fiction

But that’s a scientifically dubious assertion. As Nelly Miles, spokesperson for Georgia’s Bureau of Investigation Crime Lab, explains: “The way the story was received was that naloxone does not work.” But actually the “newer analogues are more resistant to naloxone. They require multiple doses,” said Miles, who also happens to be a forensic chemist.