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AndyC wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:22 pm Nobody can tell you what the right thing to do is until it happens, so just be flexible in your expectations/skills.

THIS!

Keith B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:02 am I have to partially disagree. You should only shoot until the threat is stopped. Once they are no longer a threat, if you come back and shoot them to make sure they are REALLY stopped, you may face criminal charges. Just ask this Oklahoma pharmacist that did just that

https://kfor.com/2018/04/17/board-denie ... -sentence/

Quoting the article:

“He’s always said, ‘Hey, I was just being robbed, I was defending everyone,” Prater said. “The fact is he was a victim in the beginning. When the robbery began, he had the right to shoot Antwun Parker in the head but, when Antwun Parker went down… still alive and unconscious on his back, he was no threat to anyone at all.”

According to Prater, Parker was shot once in the head before Ersland ran out of the store to chase the second teen suspect. He returned roughly 45 seconds later, grabbed another gun and shot Parker five more times.

That sounds a lot like an execution to me. Shoot him in the head once and put him down with one shot. Comes back in almost a minute later, and pumps five more rounds into an unconscious man—that’s an execution. I’d say that the sentence is correct.

THAT SAID..... I would not have the same opinion if he had fired all 6 shots in one fast string. In almost every police shooting video I’ve ever seen, the officer draws and fires a whole string of shots in quick succession before pausing to reassess. It’s the recognition that even with calibers beginning with "4", it can take multiple rounds to even slow down an attack, let alone stop it. Someone else posted a police body-cam video here just a couple of days ago, AMPLY demonstrating this. And MOST self defense shootings—both police and citizen shootings—do happen at pretty close range. Unless you’re good/lucky enough to put a first round into the attacker's melon, like this druggist did, one or two rounds into the attacker's COM may well be insufficient to stop the attack.

As far as I’m concerned, the attack hasn’t stopped until the attacker is either unwilling or unable to continue the attack, and is preferably down. If obtaining that result takes a mag dump from a 6+1 round G43, then so be it. The ethical burden is on the attacker. OTH, I would probably not need a mag dump with a 15+1 round G19....one of the clear advantages of a pistol with a larger capacity magazine.

But the interesting thing to me is whether an ambitious DA would draw a distinction between an emptied G43 and a half-empty G19. Roughly the same number of rounds fired, but a shooter with the half-empty G19 might be viewed as having exercised restraint, while the shooter who shot his G43 dry might be viewed as a homicidal maniac.