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cyphertext wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:17 am

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:12 pm I’ve built ARs out of both forged and billet receivers. The billet receivers were very nice in appearance - and in one case, had additional features not found on most other receivers - but I can’t truthfully say that the billet receiver rifles were any more accurate than the forged receiver rifles. Accuracy came from using premium barrels, good aftermarket triggers, and quality ammo. Optics don’t make a rifle any more accurate. They just make it easier for the shooter to shoot it more accurately. But an optic cannot cause a rifle to exceed it’s inherent accuracy.

Here are the things I would counsel:

- ambidestrous controls, to the extent possible.
- a high quality trigger from a company like Geissele or Timney ... or something in that quality range.
- a premium barrel in either 1:8 or 1:7 twist.
- a decent quality BCG, with an M16 cut carrier.
- a comfortable buttstock that gives you a decent cheek weld.

Every thing else.... and I mean EVERY thing else.... is just a matter of marketing hype and/or personal preferences.

The cheapest receiver I ever bought was $70. The most expensive was $450.

And speaking of accuracy, with an AR15 in carbine format, count your stars if you can achieve 1 MOA. Consistent sub-MOA is a rarity in the AR15 world, and it require an investment of cash to make it happen. Your average Colt 6920 carbine, for instance, is a 2-3 MOA rifle. This is perfectly normal and OK.

TAM, that can't be right... every AR I read about on forums shoots MOA or better!

1. A very basic M4 carbine, with a 1:9 twist military contract barrel from ER Shaw. It’s a very dependable 2-3 MOA rifle
2. A very fancy 16” carbine with a LOT of money invested in it, with a Rainier Arms 5R polygonal rifled medium contour 1:8 match grade barrel. Rainier guarantees sub-MOA with match ammo from that barrel. In the real world, it shoots 1 MOA with match ammo.
3. A 10.5” SBR in .300 Blk with a LOT of money invested in it, with a Rainier Arms “match grade” barrel with a sub-MOA guarantee. It shoots 1.5 MOA at best.
4. A 18” DMR with a heavy contour “match grade” barrel from Odin Works.....no “sub-MOA” garauntee. With 75 grain Hornady Superformance Match ammo, it shoots consistently sub-MOA.
5. A 20” M16/A4 replica, built on a Bravo Company complete upper, 1:7, standard gov’t contour barrel. It shoots about 1.5 MOA with M855 and M193 ball ammo. Never tried match ammo in it, but it seems to be inherently very accurate.