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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Why We Are Losing the Fight for the Second Amendment and What We Can Do About It
Replies: 21
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Re: Why We Are Losing the Fight for the Second Amendment and What We Can Do About It

Vol Texan wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: It’s quite another thing when you are speaking with someone who is a deliberately mendacious cretin, like a David Hogg or Shannon Watts - who are two of the most intellectually dishonest people walking the planet. I won’t waste my breath on people like that. It is their religion, and to even consider an alternative possibility is to become apostate......and they just won’t go there. In fact, they’ll react by comparing you to Satan and invoking all kinds of imprecations against your unholy kind. So don’t waste your breath. Instead, mark their locations on the map for potential future arty missions, and move on.
Now TAM...

I’ve met Apostate at some of our west Houston breakfast meet ups. He’s a great guy - and I don’t think you should be pickin’ on him like that!

:cheers2:
:lol:

Actually, under the right circumstances, I would engage with a mendacious cretin, IF i could stay calm enough to demonstrate to 3rd party onlookers that the cretin is irrational as well as wrong, and if so, then maybe get that 3rd person to give guns a fair shake.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Why We Are Losing the Fight for the Second Amendment and What We Can Do About It
Replies: 21
Views: 8643

Re: Why We Are Losing the Fight for the Second Amendment and What We Can Do About It

pushpullpete wrote:
Syntyr wrote:
Beiruty wrote: We are not losing an iota unless you do not pass down your love for 2ndA, or being gun enthusiast, shooter, collector or being that once a year hunter to your kids and friends and family.
This. I have taught many friends and relatives to shoot.. But my greatest "triumph" is a coworker. He works in San Antonio and I office in Houston but we both work for the same clients, just different functions. He is a die hard liberal but not stupid. He voted for Hillary in the general. He was dedicated anti gun. Over the course of a year I kept talking to him about guns and why I like them and what I do with them. We even discuss the political side of 2A issues. I have stood firm and refused to back down even when discussing the latest mass murder.

I wound up taking him shooting twice and he said he enjoyed it but would never own a gun. About 2 months later, across company IM "rlol" , he sends me a picture of Ruger SR9 and asked me if it would be an okay pistol for him to buy. I knew I had him and it was time to set the hook. I said sure but let me bring down a few more handguns and rifles and let see what you like. He bought it and is now a proud owner. The latest is he now wants me to show him how to build AR15 from parts. My next step is to buy a 1 year NRA membership for him.

I wish I could clone him over and over. I know a lot of us hate talking to the antis and think of it as a waste of time. I have said that very thing. But keep talking to people. Be a calm, cool and level headed ambassador for our 2A rights. We may go down but I am going to go down swinging...
Changing the world for the better one person at a time. Job very well done Syntyr, Kudos.
I second the kudos. You can never forget that you’re an embassador for the right.

That said, there are some people I simply won’t discuss it with. It’s one thing if the person is repeating falsehoods out of ignorance, but is acting in good faith belief that they are true, as long as they are actually willing to listen to your respectfully delivered rebuttals, and to consider your invitations to go to a range and actually learn first hand exactly what it is they are telling lies about. I can talk to someone like that. It’s quite another thing when you are speaking with someone who is a deliberately mendacious cretin, like a David Hogg or Shannon Watts - who are two of the most intellectually dishonest people walking the planet. I won’t waste my breath on people like that. It is their religion, and to even consider an alternative possibility is to become apostate......and they just won’t go there. In fact, they’ll react by comparing you to Satan and invoking all kinds of imprecations against your unholy kind. So don’t waste your breath. Instead, mark their locations on the map for potential future arty missions, and move on.

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