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by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Cheap guns
Replies: 22
Views: 5437

Re: Cheap guns

Liberty wrote:My Dad once told me " There are Vettes and Cadillacs. Neither will get you there any better than the Belair.

I don't know much about revolvers or Rossi, but I have owned a P95 and even qualified with it a couple of times. It shoots well and can be trusted to go bang every time. I have a couple of other more expensive handguns, but I don't shoot any of them better, nor trust any gun more. This all being said it's not everyone's cup of tea. Long DA trigger, heavy, and not very pretty. I won't ever get rid of it.
That seems to be the consensus on Ruger semiautos. I’ve fired one once, but never owned one. The one I’ve fired seemed reliable and solidly made - even if it seemed to me to have a bit of that “com-block tractor factory” aesthetic appeal.

I don’t know much about Rossi revolvers, except that they look like another knock-off of S&W.

In answer to the OP’s question (which I did not address above), if $450 was the limit that I could spend for a long time, and I had to have two guns.....and then that was it....well then yeah, I would say go for it. Those are probably good choices.....although I would spend half of it on the Ruger pistol and the other half on a .22 rifle. But like bmwdr said below, as a matter of personal habit, I have always taken quality over quantity, and in the end, that standard has served me well. I don’t have all the guns I want, but I definitely have more than I need to survive - more guns than a lot of people have - and going for quality over quantity hasn’t stopped me from accumulating guns. So I guess I’ve been blessed. Of course, one man’s “quality” is another man’s “junk”. Happen to like Glock pistols as carry/home-defense pistols, and I like S&W and Ruger revolvers, so I would have probably bought one or the other, knowing that I would eventually own both anyway. But a lot of people on this forum would consider my choice of Glocks as junk, and would have gone for a CZ, or a nice 1911, or whatever. And caliber has something to do with it too. Is that Ruger semiauto a 9mm, .40, or .45? If its a .40 or a .45, the amount of money you spend on ammo over the long haul will end up costing you more than you saved on the gun, compared to my 9mm Glock, for which ammo is cheap, even though the gun cost more at the outset. So the question the OP poses doesn’t have a simple answer that is right or wrong for the majority of people. It’s like asking is it better to buy two gasoline powered F150s at a lower price, or one larger diesel powered truck at a higher price. What’s the application? If you live in a large travel trailer and intend to move it occasionally across state lines, the single diesel truck is the better choice, even though it cost more.

To each his own. There is no right answer. There is only that answer which works for that individual.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:32 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Cheap guns
Replies: 22
Views: 5437

Re: Cheap guns

Pritchical wrote:Anyone have an opinion on the Taurus PT111 G2? It was so cheap it came with a free revolver. I'm not terribly impressed with the action, but it fires every time I pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it.
I might be mistaken, so I don’t want to make a big deal about it, but I have a memory (which at my age could be imagined :lol: ) of a thread someone posted a while back here about their PT111 G2 that had some kind of major function issue....like it wouldn’t fire at all, or it would fire when it wasn’t supposed to. I really don’t remember the details, but it might be worth doing a search for mention of that model in threads of less than 1 year old.

It might yield information about what to be wary of, or what you can do to fix it if it happens to you.

Edited to add.... I just found that thread from last May: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88291&p=1142160&hi ... 2#p1142160

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