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by The Annoyed Man
Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:19 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: I have something to say
Replies: 29
Views: 6198

Re: I have something to say

cmgee67 wrote:I have scoliosis in my back so it gets thrown out quite easily so maybe I should try a shoulder rig to just see how I like it. The bad thing is they are expensive just to try if I don't like it
Read this thread I posted this past December about my new shoulder rig.

Gould & Goodrich makes a perfectly serviceable decent quality product at a much reduced price from what Galco is asking. Here is the opening of what I said in that thread:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I took delivery on a new Gould & Goodrich shoulder holster today from amazon.com today. The reason I bought it was because of a change of policy at Galco I recently learned of. It used to be that Galco sold both right and left handed accessory holster bodies if you acquired another gun and wanted to carry it in your shoulder rig. I've owned a Galco Miami Classic II system for 7 or 8 years now, and I have holster bodies for a 1911 and a HK USP Compact .40. I also have a double magazine carrier for 1911s and one for the HK USP-sized .40 cal magazines. My back has been bothering me a LOT lately and I'm having trouble wearing belt holsters again, so I wanted to buy a holster body for my Galco to fit my Glock 19 and 17, and a new mag holder for the Glock 9mm mags.

The problem arose when I saw that the Galco website only shows right-handed spare holster bodies available. When I called Galco to see if I could order one over the phone, It was told that they no longer sold left-handed holster bodies by themselves. I could only get one by buying a whole new shoulder holster system. Well, the spare holster body alone (if I wanted a right handed one) costs $89.95. The entire new holster system costs $214.95. So Galco screws lefty shooters to the tune of $125 if they want a new left-handed holster body for their Miami Classic II. I'm not having any of that!

So a quick search for left handed shoulder holster for Glock 17/19 turned up this Gould & Goodrich #804. Their [MSRP] retail price is $186.13, but I thought I'd check Amazon (linked above), and they had it for only $129.66 with free shipping. No brainer. I'll take $129.66 over Galco's $214.95.

Anyway, it came in today. Quality seems easily on a par with the Galco product, and it fits. The one thing it doesn't have is a screw to adjust retention, but it doesn't really need it. Fit is perfect.
It's not my EDC holster, but I do wear it fairly frequently. It is holding up just fine, still looks brand new, and is quite comfortable. There is no discernible difference in fit or quality between it and the Galco which costs twice as much. I would easily recommend this one to anyone looking for a shoulder rig. It's not fancy, but it works and it looks good. Pictures of it in my other post.
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:39 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: I have something to say
Replies: 29
Views: 6198

Re: I have something to say

When my back hurts, I keep the G19 + 2 mags, but switch to a shoulder holster until my back eases up.

Each to his own, but I'll strongly disagree with your statement that there's not much difference between a .380 and a 9mm. If you're talking about circumference, you'd be right. The .380 is also known as "9mm Kurz" (9mm short). But just like a .22 short doesn't pack the same punch as a .22 LR, the .380 does not come close to 9mm performance.

All would agree that Buffalo Bore ammo pretty much maximizes power available to a given caliber. A Buffalo Bore 95 grain +P .380 load fired from a Ruger LCP (SOURCE) yields 986 fps and about 240 ft lbs. Now compare that to a standard pressure 115 grain Federal JHP 9mm out of your G19, which has a 4" barrel, producing 1,094 fps and 300 ft lbs. Now.....let's make that a Corbon 115 grain DPX +P 9mm (since Buffalo Bore doesn't appear on that 9mm chart, and now you're talking about 1,316 fps and about 440 ft lbs. Now that .380 is starting to look kind of anemic. Better yet let's drop that 9mm bullet weight to a 90 grain +P Corbon JHP out of your G19, and now you're talking about 1,444 fps and 420 ft lbs.

Or, compare a standard pressure .380 90 grain Hornady XTP with 796 fps and 140 ft lbs from your LCP to a standard pressure 115 grain Federal JHP with 1,094 fps and 300 ft lbs from a 4" G19.

It would be like trying to argue that there isn't a significant difference between .40 S&W and 10mm Auto.

I'm not volunteering to step in front of your .380, and you may personally not feel particularly outgunned with one (choice tastes like freedom). But the .380 isn't even close to the 9mm, and they are significantly different loads.

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