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by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

JALLEN wrote:....the agent told me the FBI gathers information, not provide it.
My answer:
Am I being charged with something then at this time? No? Then please direct all future contacts to my attorney, as this conversation is over. Good day.
Maybe short sighted and impractical from a legal standpoint, but I don't react well to that kind of crap from people who forget who pays their salaries. And by the way, I have cooperated with an FBI investigation before and spoken with an investigator looking into a crime involving interstate commerce. I was a young shipping clerk at the time for a clothing manufacturer in Los Angeles, and there was a discrepancy between the number of cartons received at the customer's end, and the number of cartons I shipped. My number was correct, and I had the paper trail to prove it. I'm not against helping police in an investigation when I'm treated with respect; but when the arrogance of officialdom goes untempered, it rubs me the wrong way and I lose the willingness to talk to anyone. They can bloody well get their information somewhere else.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:13 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Some are More Equal than Others
THE ANNOYED MAN·WEDNESDAY, JULY 6, 2016
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IMHO, those of us who have websites, blogs, or a Facebook presence should quote that little tidbit to make sure it's promulgated all over the internet.

TAM, what's the link we should use? Do you want to create a BITly or some other shortened "anonymized" version for it?

Edited to add: Interestingly, the link to the original Facebook post is showing, "Sorry, this content isn't available right now." TAM, have you been censored by Facebook for being critical of Hillary Clinton?
Direct link to post on my website: http://heritageandvirtue.com/taste-test ... thers.html
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:20 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Some are More Equal than Others
THE ANNOYED MAN·WEDNESDAY, JULY 6, 2016
...
IMHO, those of us who have websites, blogs, or a Facebook presence should quote that little tidbit to make sure it's promulgated all over the internet.

TAM, what's the link we should use? Do you want to create a BITly or some other shortened "anonymized" version for it?

Edited to add: Interestingly, the link to the original Facebook post is showing, "Sorry, this content isn't available right now." TAM, have you been censored by Facebook for being critical of Hillary Clinton?
Probably it is because we're not Facebook friends. I've just changed the viewing permissions to make it visible to the World, but I'll also copy the post to my personal website and then put the link here.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:47 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

dale blanker wrote:Just to put things in perspective, remember the Petraeus deal. In his case, there was willful transfer of classified material and then lying to the FBI. He pleaded to a misdemeanor and was awarded probation and $100K fine. Go figure...
I am not defending Petraeus, but also to put things in perspective......... the classified material that he willfully transferred was (A) transferred to another person with a classified clearance (Broadwell, who had clearance as part of her job in the Army), and (B) the material consisted of his calendars for a certain period.......not opsec stuff or the names of secret agents. Now, could a smart, hostile spy obtain a certain amount of intelligence from that? Yes. Who Patraeus met with, and when, might shed light on other information that spy had, thereby augmenting it.

And by the way, the OTHER guilty party in Patraeus's illegal transactions, the person who willfully received and used the classified materials, Paula Broadwell, was never charged. How can that be? Could it be .............. SATAN? ( :lol: )

Clinton, on the other hand, willfully transferred classified information between herself and her staff on an unsecured server (which has been hacked more than once, apparently), some of that information containing the names of intelligence operatives in the field (per various news reports I've seen over the last year). Furthermore, she willfully exchanged classified information with Sidney Blumenthal, who was neither on her staff, nor even a gov't employee. And to add insult to injury, she willfully destroyed gov't records.... namely her calendars......which would have held the incriminating evidence of her meetings with foreign representatives from whom her foundation accepted bribes in exchange for her favorable decisions on matters of (no-longer) American strategic resources. Etc., etc., etc.

All I want is equal application of the law, without which we can longer say we live under the rule of law. Here is just SOME of the fallout from Comey's Cowardice: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- ... 42162.html. Get that? Other people, charged with similar offenses, are now going to try the "Hillary Defense" to get their charges dropped. Furthermore, using the "Hillary Defense" standard, Patraeus ought to be pardoned and his conviction erased........and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he seeks that through back channels. After all, who needs that hanging over the tatters of their reputation?

I wrote the following blog post in my Facebook Notes yesterday. Since I wrote it, I'm reproducing it in full here. I strongly urge you to follow each and every link here, and if you come away somehow still thinking that what Patraeus did was worse, then you just don't want to see the facts:
Some are More Equal than Others
THE ANNOYED MAN·WEDNESDAY, JULY 6, 2016

“One law for thee, another for me” has become the refrain inside the DC Beltway. George Orwell’s prophetic novel “Animal Farm” predicted exactly what is happening in real life in the United States today:
THE SEVEN COMMANDMENTS
1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
3. No animal shall wear clothes.
4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5. No animal shall drink alcohol.
6. No animal shall kill any other animal.
7. All animals are equal.

Orwell, George (2009-07-01). Animal Farm: A Fairy Story (An Hbj Modern Classic) (p. 21). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.

Then something changed. The commandments were removed, and one guiding principle was substituted:
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

Orwell, George (2009-07-01). Animal Farm: A Fairy Story (An Hbj Modern Classic) (p. 118). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.
In 2012, a naval reservist by the name of Brian Nishimura was successfully prosecuted by the Justice Department for inappropriate handling of classified materials on his personal computer while deployed to Afghanistan from 2007-2008. According to the article (linked above):
Nishimura served as a Regional Engineer and, according to the FBI’s investigation into the incident, “had access to classified briefings and digital records that could only be retained and viewed on authorized government computers.”

“Nishimura, however, caused the materials to be downloaded and stored on his personal, unclassified electronic devices and storage media,” wrote the FBI. “He carried such classified materials on his unauthorized media when he traveled off-base in Afghanistan and, ultimately, carried those materials back to the United States at the end of his deployment.”

Like Clinton, Nishimura admitted to destroying “a large quantity of classified materials.”

Like Clinton, the FBI investigation into his actions “did not reveal evidence that Nishimura intended to distribute classified information to unauthorized personnel.”

Unlike Clinton, he was sentenced to two years of probation, a $7,500 fine, and forfeiture of personal media containing classified materials.

He was also “ordered to surrender any currently held security clearance and to never again seek such a clearance.”
One law for thee, another for me.

In 2012, now-disgraced General David Petraeus (US Army, Retired) resigned his position as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency when it came to light that he had been having an affair with a former junior officer by the name of Paula Broadwell, who was his biographer. In January of 2015, the FBI brought charges against Petraeus for improper handling of classified materials. Initially, he denied the charges and expressed no interest in a plea deal. However, in March of 2015, he did plead guilty to having shared classified documents with Broadwell while she wrote his biography. It is worth noting that she also had some security clearances as an Army Major, with a pending promotion to Lt Colonel (which was eventually was stifled because of the FBI’s investigation into the affair with Patraeus). The General was sentenced to two years’ probation plus a $100,000 fine — which was more than twice the amount the Justice Department had requested.

In addition, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter briefly considered retroactively busting the already-retired Petraeus down from four star general to lieutenant general on the retirement list— a deeply unpopular move smacking of vengeance (Petraeus was not well-liked by the administration), which would have cost Petraeus $50,000/year in pension payments, plus a restitution of $50,000/year of retirement at the higher rank.......a total punishment in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in retirement funds alone. When the news became public, Carter dropped the matter. In the public’s mind, regardless of what people thought of his affairs, Patraeus served the nation ably for four decades and was a reasonably popular figure. You don’t screw a popular general out of hundreds of thousands of dollars in retirement funds after he has already been retired for a while, without incurring a political cost. But we are well beyond that point now, and the democrat party no longer fears political backlash.

One law for thee, another for me.

Paul Thompson is a self-proclaimed political liberal, a registered democrat, and former supporter of Hillary Clinton who believed at first that the political kerfuffle over the Clinton email scandal was much ado about nothing, but he decided that it bore looking into. The trouble is, the more he looked, the more he found wrong.....not wrong accusations, but wrong narrative from the Clinton camp, and he established the website http://www.thompsontimeline.com/ which provides timelines of the entire scandal, to the present, in short, medium, and long detailed versions. For the sake of intellectual integrity (a shrinking commodity these days), he also provides a link to the Clinton Foundation’s Version of event timeline — which Thompson points out is ENTIRELY different in all particulars. I strongly urge my readers to at least read the short version of Thompson’s timeline. One of the particulars it reveals (actually, reminds us of) is that the newly elected Obama administration was busily embroiled in dealing with a similar email scandal which carried over from the Bush administration, in which Bush administration officials were taken to task for using a private email server to discuss administration business off the record. Vox, a left-leaning activism website reported that:
There is simply no way that, when Clinton decided to use her personal email address as Secretary of State, she was unaware of the national scandal that Bush officials had created by doing the same.

That she decided to use her personal address anyway showed a stunning disregard for governmental transparency requirements. Indeed, Clinton did not even bother with the empty gesture of using her official address for more formal business, as Bush officials did.

The most generous interpretation is that she just preferred her personal email. A less generous one is that, like many politicians before her, using a personal email was a deliberate ploy to avoid transparency (Clinton took some hits when she released her private emails as first lady, so transparency had hurt her in the past) and perhaps even hamper potential investigations.

Perhaps even more stunning is that the Obama White House, whose top officials were presumably exchanging frequent emails with Clinton, apparently did not insist she adopt an official email account. At some point during Obama's first year, there must have been at least one senior official who dealt with the political fallout of Karl Rove using a personal address, then turned around and fired off an email to the personal address that Hillary Clinton used exclusively. That this continued for four years is baffling.
What’s even more baffling is that it was reported of Hillary Clinton in 2007 during her presidential primary campaign:
In 2007, then-Sen. Clinton (D-N.Y.) said during a speech to a progressive audience, "Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps, we know about the secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts ... it’s a stunning record of secrecy and corruption, of cronyism run amok."

A top adviser to Clinton's nascent campaign in the current presidential cycle, John Podesta, also in 2007 accused President Bush's administration of using private emails to circumvent transparency rules.
One law for thee, another for me.

As we all now know, FBI Director James Comey announced yesterday that they are recommending no charges be filed against Hillary Clinton. Some of the relevant laws which Comey has essentially rewritten are:
In 2008, Hillary Clinton set up a private email server in her home, and used it in violation of federal law to handle her email while she was serving (some would say, “increasing her personal fortune”) as Secretary of State. That server was completely unsecured. Hundreds, if not thousands, of classified records were sent across that server in her emails and those of her minions. When caught, she immediately deleted 30,000 emails from that server. She then stonewalled the investigation for at least two years. ALL of this is documented fact.

A week ago, former President (and the man who nominated Loretta Lynch to the position of U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York in 1999) Bill Clinton was sitting in a private jet on the tarmac at Phoenix Sky Harbor airport, waiting for takeoff. At the time, (now) Attorney General Loretta Lynch was about to arrive in her jet at the same airport. A private meeting aboard Clinton’s jet ensued between the two, producing horrible optics. Both parties claim that it was a chance meeting and that all they talked about was golf and grandchildren. But it was NOT chance. Bill Clinton ordered his pilot to delay his departure by something like 20 minutes so that he could meet with Lynch, who had not yet arrived. This fact is backed up by all witnesses to the event except the two miscreants. There is NO WAY that Hillary Clinton’s predicament was not discussed, and it is not hard to hazard a guess that Bill Clinton reminded Lynch that, but for him, she would still be an Assistant U.S. Attorney in some east coast office somewhere. Some have intimated that threats were involved. I don’t think threats were necessary. These people are all part of the same cabal. A favor was owed, and on that day at Sky Harbor, Loretta made good on the debt. The media’s reaction? Sad because it makes “everyone” look bad, but not so much worried that something might actually be untoward and sketchy.

A few days later, AG Loretta Lynch announces that she will follow whatever recommendations are given her by the investigating attorneys of the DOJ, wherever they lead, but that she does not expect any charges to be forthcoming.

And a couple of days after that, Director Comey makes his announcement, shaking the confidence of 70% of the electorate in the impartiality of the Justice Dept.

One law for thee, another for me.

In one case, an obscure navy veteran, with no malice in his heart, took shortcuts with classified materials. He did not contest the charges. The FBI admits that his behavior did not reveal any intent to give away secrets, but even so, AND UNLIKE CLINTON, he gets slapped with two years of probation, a $7,500 fine, forfeiture of personal media containing classified materials (meaning his personal computer was confiscated), and he permanently lost his security clearance, and with it, his job.

In another case, a very public and popular military figure, without malice, shared classified information with his biographer — who also held some security clearances, and with whom he was having an affair. Investigators do not charge him with trying to give the information away, they charge him with “unauthorized removal and retention of classified information”. He fairly quickly decides not to contest the charges. He receives a sentence of two years of probation plus a $100,000 fine (not to mention the threats against his pension).

In a third case, a very public and polarizing political figure who has never served her country, but has used her gov’t positions to line her bank account; who was WELL aware that what she was doing was illegal; improperly handled classified information on an unsecured server in the basement of her home, 200 miles away from her office. She destroyed public records in violation of federal law. She stonewalled investigators for two years. The FBI - as they did in the first two cases - say that there was no deliberate attempt to divulge secrets in a malicious way. But UNLIKE the other two cases, the FBI does not recommend charges. Why?

It is almost impossible to escape the conclusion that the fix was in. The third person happens to be the democrat party’s candidate for President of the United States. The FBI Director was appointed by her former boss when she was Secretary of State - the current President of the United States, a democrat. The FBI Director’s boss - the current Attorney General - is a democrat who was appointed as a U.S. Attorney by the husband of the current candidate back when he was President of the United States. The Attorney General, who owed a favor to the husband of the person being investigated was nominated to her office by the current President. A week ago, the husband and the AG meet in private. A few days later, the FBI recommends no charges be filed. EVERYTHING points to her guilt. EVERYTHING points to the fact that she knew she was guilty. But no charges. Instead, this conspiracy of thugs colluded to clear the way for her election. There is NO WAY she is not guilty. There is NO WAY her case deserves to be treated any differently than the other two cases received. But Hillary Clinton is skating on a fairly serious charge - and THIS is the person who will be leading our nation further down the rosy path to national socialism.........a state under which officialdom is free to perpetrate the most grievous crimes because there is no accountability or moral center left in the system.

One law for thee, another for me.

I ask my reader: when you read this, does it restore your faith in the rule of law, or do you conclude as I do that we are now under the rule of men instead, and that the Constitutional Republic is dead?

This nation is doomed unless the American voter wakes up and smells the coffee, and begins to demand the same kind of accountability from officialdom that officialdom demands from them. I am not optimistic.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

anygunanywhere wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... jail-cell/
Christian Times Newspaper has learned that Guccifer, the Romanian hacker currently being held on charges for hacking Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, has been found in his Virginia jail cell, dead of an apparent suicide.

Guccifer, also known as Marcel Lazar Lehel, was extradited to the United States to face charges after openly admitting to repeatedly hacking Hillary Clinton’s email server. This claim occurred in the midst of an FBI probe that was concluded this morning by Director Comey.
Another name added to the Clinton dead pool.......
Aaaaaaaand another...


https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2016/07/0 ... y-clinton/
However, it turns out that the Guccifer story is a hoax, which I didn't realize when I posted the item above: http://sourceplanet.net/news/is-guccife ... on-emails/
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:17 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... jail-cell/
Christian Times Newspaper has learned that Guccifer, the Romanian hacker currently being held on charges for hacking Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, has been found in his Virginia jail cell, dead of an apparent suicide.

Guccifer, also known as Marcel Lazar Lehel, was extradited to the United States to face charges after openly admitting to repeatedly hacking Hillary Clinton’s email server. This claim occurred in the midst of an FBI probe that was concluded this morning by Director Comey.
Another name added to the Clinton dead pool.......
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:37 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

LucasMcCain wrote:As usual, you express yourself well, and I agree with the majority of what you say. There are just a few things I would say about your view.

I would caution everyone not to let themselves be convinced of the futility of our cause by the media. One of their primary goals is to convince us that we are in the overwhelming minority, and that is simply not true. There are many who believe as we do. They simply lack major media outlets through which to voice their opinions. Much of the general voting population is conservative and votes conservative. If they didn't, the Dems wouldn't have to get illegal voters and work so tirelessly to discredit, discourage, and intimidate all who oppose them. Does it look grim? Sure. Should we just give up? Not at all. Don't let the liars convince you that the majority of people believe their lies. This is why so many people fear to denounce the lies, and they shouldn't be afraid.

As far as Trump goes, I don't like him. However, I haven't liked any president as a person since Reagan. I disagreed with a some of Ronnie's policies, but I genuinely believe that he was a good man trying to do what he believed to be right. I can't really say that confidently about any of those that have held the office since him. I voted for some of them, though. I voted against the rest. Vote. Vote for the lesser of two evils. I realize that phrase is particularly applicable to this election, but vote none the less. It may be rigged; the enemy will most certainly cheat again; vote anyway. Vote for the candidate we have, even though it's not the candidate we want.

Most importantly, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. God is seated on his throne. He is sovereign and His will WILL be done. He knows who will win, and they will do so only because He allows it. We must trust God and put our faith in Him regardless of the politicians, and even the governments, that come and go. It may very well be that God will allow that horrible woman to win. If so, I would offer you a word of comfort. The Christian faith grows the fastest in the parts of the world where it is most strongly opposed and persecuted. If that evil woman takes office, the Christian church WILL be persecuted, and it WILL grow faster than it has in several generations. This is not conjecture; this is learning from history and from other nations of the world right now. The church is growing by leaps and bounds in countries where discovery that you are a Christian means execution.

I guess the TL;DR version is: Take heart. All is not yet lost. Even if it is, God will use whatever happens for His purposes, to His glory, and we are to count it joy when we suffer for His sake. I know you know that, but it bears repeating. And in case I didn't make it clear, I say all this with the utmost respect, to build you up, not cut you down. You are one of my favorite people in this forum and I value your opinions highly. :tiphat:
I don't take it as a cut down at all, and thank you for the affirmation. I want to stress that I am pessimistic politically, but NOT unhappy spiritually. I fully expect the persecution, and as a friend of mine said recently, "if we die, we die". I'm actually OK with all of that because I know where I'm headed, and I won't be die-ing as a young man. What I didn't say in my previous post, but have posted elsewhere such as on Facebook is that I actually count it a privilege to be alive to be both a witness to God's hand in these events, and to be his witness to people in a time of increasing spiritual need. I've been reading lately from a biographical trilogy of Winston Churchill (Volume 1, Volume 2, and Volume 3), and I am encouraged by his "happy warrior" ethos. I just no longer see it as a winnable political war. Politics come and go, but God is eternal. The fight is now in the spiritual realm, and I am comfortable with that.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:27 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

nimravus01 wrote:This reminds me of a passage in the book 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell. You see, after the revolution in which the animals overthrew the opressive humans, the pigs slowly took control. Then, after much time had passed, the pigs surreptitiously changed the law from "all animals are equal", to then say "all animals are equal but some are more equal than others." It's disturbing that a satire of Stalinism can be hitting home with this Hillary/FBI thing.
I've quoted that passage to people more times than I care to remember..........and while most of them are offended at the notion that elites think they are more equal than the rest of us, and they agree with me that the notion is morally wrong, they still vote for oligarchs who maintain that "more equal than others" status quo.

The American voter is largely a hypocritical idiot who will vote himself bread and circuses. Now, for some, bread and circuses means gov't charity for themselves; for others, bread and circuses means aiding and abetting America's role as the "global police"; still for others, bread and circuses means charity for foreign nations. But very very few are willing to vote for an actual reduction in gov't if it means giving up their most cherished shibboleths. To such a citizenry, "some are more equal than others" ultimately turns out not to bother them all that much, so long as they get whatever it is they want. They are categorically unable to put the health of the Constitution and the rule of law ahead of their wants.

This is a complete about-face for me. I used to have faith in the long-term wisdom of the electorate. I thought that they occasionally made mistakes, but then they were willing to correct those mistakes when they'd had enough, by throwing the bums out once in a while. I no longer think they even know where their actual self-interests lie because they've been thoroughly seduced by the oligarchs. If they can't recognize Clinton or Trump for what they are, then how on earth can they even be expected to ever recognize a true statesmen if one were to unexpectedly rear up and bite them on the butt? All the great statesmen are dead and gone, and there are precious few people involved in gov't any longer—whether as elected officials, or as unknown bureaucrats—who still believe that they serve the more noble cause of a Constitutional Republic rather than existing for the purpose of protecting their rice bowl and pandering to the looters.

The fact is, Trump can't beat Clinton. EVEN IF every "never Trump" person like me reversed themselves and abandoned that position, there simply aren't enough voters who fall outside of the "looters" category to overcome the majority that the looters hold. Eight years of Obama HAS fundamentally transformed the nation. We are no longer recognizable as the "shining city on the hill". Eight years of Obama HAS convinced a significant chunk of the electorate to become looters. Eight years of Obama HAS wiped out any belief among those looters in the notion of American exceptionalism. Eight years of Obama HAS eradicated any due reverence among the looters for the precepts of individual liberty. He HAS fundamentally transformed America, and it is for the long term.

We are going to have at least 4 to 8 more years, possibly longer, of this progressive descent into fascism before people decide they've had enough..........IF they ever decide they've had enough.......because there simply aren't enough people left who remember this country as it was, and the number of looters is increasing. We are getting older and dying off, and this entitled generation of snowflakes is about to take power. I tremble for the country my precious grandkids are going to inherit, if it still exists by then.

So I don't take my comfort from a hope that Trump will somehow miraculously win the election. Each of us is going to have to find out for ourselves from where to take comfort for the future, but if a wart like Trump is the best anyone can do to find hope in this state of affairs, then I would suggest they should look elsewhere.

Not to proselytize, but this is where I find my comfort for me: God is not surprised by any of this. He is in fact in control of all of it. NONE of it happens but he allows it to happen. Just as he allowed Satan to torment Job and then used that for his own glory (and in the process, refining Job's righteousness), God will allow this nation's torment to happen, and then he will use it for his own glory - and in the process, perhaps refining our own righteousness. What we have broken, he can redeem. He not only can, he will. It may be impossible for my finite human mind to wrap itself around exactly how or why God will use this, but I have complete faith that he will.

In the Old Testament, the people of Israel/Judah were subjected to exile in Assyria and Babylon for the sins of their kings and the people themselves. But among those exiles were a number of righteous men — Ezekel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, Jeremiah, Ezra — who suffered alongside their people even though some of them were actual prophets. To me, this is an illustration of what we can expect for those of us who still love liberty and were not willing to throw away the Constitution in exchange for bread and circuses. We will suffer alongside those who were heedless, short-sighted, and selfish. But, it is for some of us to be the "prophets" of liberty, to keep the idea alive until God sees fit to relieve our suffering. In the meantime, I believe that God will use this suffering for his own glory, and I also believe that my very raison d'être is to glorify God. So I am satisfied that, while I might suffer because of what is to come, God is going to redeem all of this, and use it all for his good purposes. Even so, come Jesus come.

I realize that not everybody shares my brand of faith, or even has any spiritual inclinations at all, so this is how I process these events, and how I find my comfort in them. Again, this is not meant to be proselytizing for my particular brand of faith; but I do most wholeheartedly suggest that each of us needs to look elsewhere for comfort, because there is ZERO chance of finding any in the current events. This IS as bad as it gets.
by The Annoyed Man
Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

mojo84 wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
B23Msports wrote:In return for his help in this, does Barrack Obama become a Supreme Court judge appointed by Hillary?
Be afraid. Be very afraid...
Loretta Lynch
Obama and Lynch on the same court? End of the nation stuff.
by The Annoyed Man
Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:00 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal
Replies: 131
Views: 26805

Re: Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

anygunanywhere wrote:Anyone think that the next presidential election is not rigged?
https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/ ... 5392235520
markknollertweet.jpg
Oh no.......it's not rigged. What are you, one of those crazy rightwing wing nuts? :???:

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