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by The Annoyed Man
Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:21 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Concealed carry in FRANCE?
Replies: 15
Views: 3112

Re: Concealed carry in FRANCE?

VMI77 wrote:
E10 wrote: Didn't seem to need it, though, because there were soldiers EVERYWHERE. We saw a lot of Africans, etc., but managed to avoid any place like that in the video. Felt pretty safe the whole time.
Didn't stop 127 people being killed in Paris, and a lot more being wounded....or help those people at the Charlie Hebbo office. I guess they weren't EVERYWHERE. I think people still get murdered in France too.
"Soldiers everywhere" was the case when I was last there in 2005, and it was the case when I lived in Paris in 1961/62. In 1961, it didn't stop OAS terrorists from blowing up the front of the building 2 or 4 doors down from my grammar school building.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Concealed carry in FRANCE?
Replies: 15
Views: 3112

Re: Concealed carry in FRANCE?

VMI77 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: I'm not certain what kind of gun he is carrying in that video, but it looks like a hammer-fired semiautomatic........I'm guessing in 9mm. This wiki page says that the standard firearm issued to French police officers since the early 2000s is a Sig Pro 2022, but before that it was a PAMAS G1, which is a Beretta 92 manufactured under license in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_(France). I can't tell for sure what the guy in the video has, but if you freeze frame and zoom in, the hammer/beavertail profile looks more Beretta-ish than Sig-ish.
frenchpolicegun.jpg
It looked like a revolver to me.
That's what I thought at first, but I think that is just part of the holster that looks like a cylinder, and there is definitely something that looks like a beavertail......but I could be wrong.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:23 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Concealed carry in FRANCE?
Replies: 15
Views: 3112

Re: Concealed carry in FRANCE?

I do speak French, and the person with the gun as well as his companions are identified in the video as police. As far as I know, it is very difficult for a "common" citizen to obtain permission to carry a concealed pistol, let alone actually own a pistol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_ ... ion#France
In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting licence or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibres, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds. Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_France

I'm not certain what kind of gun he is carrying in that video, but it looks like a hammer-fired semiautomatic........I'm guessing in 9mm. This wiki page says that the standard firearm issued to French police officers since the early 2000s is a Sig Pro 2022, but before that it was a PAMAS G1, which is a Beretta 92 manufactured under license in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_(France). I can't tell for sure what the guy in the video has, but if you freeze frame and zoom in, the hammer/beavertail profile looks more Beretta-ish than Sig-ish.
frenchpolicegun.jpg

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