And even if you did get arrested for having a pistol stored in your car at a post office parking lot, I wonder if a smart attorney couldn't appeal to the standard set when federal law began to allow carry of firearms in national parks, according to the laws of the state in which the national park land falls. You still can't carry into a national park office or other federal building in the park, but you can carry outdoors in the park all day long, as long as the state permits it. Why would one be regulated any differently than the other?ScottDLS wrote:The enabling statute for banning firearms in Federal FACILITIES is 18 USC 930.Topbuilder wrote:Unless your Post Office is in a strip mall or they do not own the parking lot.Javier730 wrote:Post offices are off limits. They do not need signs as they are federal property. You cant even be armed in the parking lot.
This statute does not ban firearms in the parking lot. The Postal Service has cited 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(l ) which they use to ban firearms from postal property. However the enabling statute for this regulation is not 18 USC 930. The statute that they use has a maximum $50 fine and possible 30 day jail.
While the regulation doesn't require posting, the only time I've been able to find that it was enforced outside of the "facility" was on a postal service employee. Without posting it may be difficult to get a conviction of somebody under the enabling statute. The blanket statement that it is "illegal" to have a gun on postal property is hard to support, since there are a number of legal reasons for having firearms on the property (i.e. shipping to licensed dealer) and the CRIMINAL statute used 18 USC 930 doesn't apply to parking lots, and does specifically require notice. I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about leaving my CCW in my car in the parking lot. I would NOT carry in the FACILITY.
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