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jmra wrote:

android wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote: I responded to your comment that no one was "swept" with a muzzle if the trigger was covered by the holster. This simply is not the case. When the muzzle points at a person, that person has been swept and that violates one of the cardinal gun safety rules.
Chas.

Well can disagree on this and Kathy disagrees with you too.

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We can argue till the cows come home about how safe this type of carry is, but for the vast majority of the public perception is reality. If it makes people on this forum (who have many more years experience handling firearms and teaching firearm safety than Kathy does) uncomfortable how do you think it's going to make the general public feel? That is a rhetorical question because we all already know the answer. The perception of the public is going to be "that gun is pointed right at me" and the people they say that to are going to be the people who are going to feel that they have no other choice than to ban OC from their establishment.

We always talk about how OC isn't a big deal other places and most people don't even notice. I agree with that when we are talking about a subdued OWB holster. Most people's eyes aren't focused on people's hands and waistline thus the firearm goes unnoticed. But a shoulder holster not only draws a lot more attention because it falls in most people's line of sight, it also draws attention to the firearm. Add a barrel pointing at you and you're asking for the sheep to panic which will only result in more limitations on where and how we can carry.

I know there are some that are going to say that if they don't like it they can move. My response to that is you are going to be the one moving - out the door. Unfortunately you are not the only one who will pay the price for your actions.

1. All I can say is that I know my horizontal shoulder holster is perfectly safe, and it will not cause a gun to fire spontaneously any more than if the gun were just sitting on a table unmolested. This is why I don't have a problem carrying with it.
2. But, I also know that if that gun were sitting unattended on a table, loaded, I would not willingly walk past the muzzle end of it....... even though I know that the gun cannot fire itself. To ask someone else to knowingly walk past the muzzle would be a major social faux-pas.
3. However, if the gun is inside a box on that table, and I don't know it is there, I'll walk past it quite unconcerned. And the fact of my ignorance makes it no more dangerous than if I could see it. It still won't fire itself. And I maintain that that same other party could walk blythely past that same gun in a box, and he would be in no more danger or emotional distress than I would have been.
4. There is the one in a million chance of a sear failure that others have mentioned, but if that were a common event, you'd be hearing of a lot stories about people getting randomly shot by their own holstered pistols.......and while I'm not saying it's never happened, neither is it any kind of a common occurrence.
5. So, the "problem" (if there is one) is largely a matter of perception (see #3). I understand the perception problem, and as I stated in a previous post, I'd feel reflexively uncomfortable too, but it is really a case of "what you don't know won't hurt you". Wearing a holster holster concealed solves the perception problem.