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by The Annoyed Man
Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:49 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-
Replies: 455
Views: 132888

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Beiruty wrote:Those projectiles are extremely huge and heavy. 2,700 lbs and for those who reload propelled by 660lbs of smokeless gunpowder.
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What's really impressive about the 16"/50 caliber gun is that even though the 2,700 lb projectile is the heavy one, the light projectile was still 1,900 lbs, and muzzle velocity was still 2,690 fps........or about the same as a .308 Winchester 168 grain Matchking. That is some high velocity for such a heavy projectile. Maximum range was 24 miles, over the horizon, and the shell had a 1-1/2 minute flight time to target at that range.

Necessarily, that made for some complex range-finding. If your enemy's battleship is steaming forward full speed ahead at say 25 knots, it can cover a lot of water in a minute and a half (about .72 miles)......and that implies a straight line movement. If the ship is swerving along its path, it gets even more complicated, since the range to target varies up and down according to the tacking course changes and the enemy's angle of movement relative to your own ship. So the fire-control center had to make sure that the changing target picture was accounted for before giving the command to fire. In fact, naval gunnery contributed significantly to the development of both radar and analog computing during WW2. Even so, naval gunnery was necessarily limited to what a battleship could do within a distance of 24 miles, and those limitations were the death knell of battleships when it became evident that aircraft carriers could both project more power AND destroy battleships at safe standoff distances.

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by The Annoyed Man
Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:22 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-
Replies: 455
Views: 132888

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

ELB wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Chas.
On a big gun the caliber is the length of the barrel in units = diameter of the bore. The barrels on the Iowa are 50x16" long = 800 inches = 66.66 feet (so the caliber is "50"). Why, I dunno, you'd have to ask the Navy. My understanding this is how the Navy measures barrel length, the Army uses feet.

I think we have an arty guy on the board, maybe he can give the why.
Imagine for a moment if a 9x19mm cartridge were to be fired in a pistol with a 5" barrel. If we were to express that pistol barrel in naval gun terms, we would need the following values:
  1. bore size = 9mm
  2. barrel length = 5"
  3. 5" = 127mm
  4. 127mm ÷ 9mm = 14.111
Thus, in naval gun terms, the 9mm pistol firing that cartridge has a 9mm/14.11 caliber barrel.

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