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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:02 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....
Replies: 37
Views: 6223

Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

Abraham, I do get what your saying, so no offense taken. I understand that one person's need to track this stuff might be viewed by others as obsessively compulsive.

In a different day and age, I might not be nearly as concerned about tracking my inventory as I am today; but the changing landscape is what motivated me to tackle this project.

For me, there are two reasons to inventory ammunition: cost-control, and general preparedness.
  • Cost-control:
    When gas prices skyrocket, the best way to reduce your total expenditure on gasoline is to keep your tank full. For instance, if your car has a 20 gallon tank and you fill it up (from empty) at $1.99/gallon, then you've got $39.80 invested in gas. If gas goes up to $2.49/gallon after you fill up and you burn all of your $1.99/gallon gas before refueling, then a fill-up costs you $49.80, and that is the new value of the gas in your tank. However, if gas goes up to $2.49/gallon after the first fill-up, and you refuel when the tank is only half empty, then that fill-up cost you $24.90, and the total value of the gas in your tank is $44.80 (instead of $49.80). By buying more gas when it is cheaper, and less gas when it is higher, you save some money over the long haul.

    Similarly to the gas thing, if you buy more ammo than you need when it is cheap, and you buy less than you actually use when it is more expensive, then your total expenditure on ammo will be less that it is if you only buy ammo on your way to the range.
  • General preparedness:
    If food becomes scarce and you don't have any stored, then you are going to be hungry. If ammo becomes scarce and you don't have any stored, then all of your guns become bricks.

    We currently live under the dictatorial rule of an administration which is doing what it can to make ammo harder to buy (pressure on banks, and pressure on BATFE). NOT storing some ammunition just to have it on hand, and regularly replacing it as you use it, is to consign yourself to having a collection of mechanically complicated bricks.

    I have guns in my home for the same reason that I have fire extinguishers in my home. I have additional ammo stored for the same reason that I keep my fire extinguishers charged up. I have more than one flashlight in the home. I also buy more than one or two batteries at a time. Whenever a flashlight's batteries run down, I can replace them from on-hand inventory, and then replace the inventory when it is both convenient and cost effective.
That said, I do not have enough fire extinguishers or flashlights to make the use of a spreadsheet to track them worth it. But for guns, it is different.

If I only owned one or two guns, in one or two calibers, then I wouldn't really need a spreadsheet for this either. For those who are in that position, then this would probably not be something very useful to you. I understand, and that's OK. But over the years, my wife and I have accumulated a small "collection" of guns. Between us, we own three shotguns in two gauges, eight rifles in four calibers, five revolvers in four calibers, and nine semiautomatic pistols in three calibers. I do understand that this is a lot of guns for some people, but for others it is not really very many guns. In any case, maintaining an standing inventory for that many firearms, both for reasons of cost-control and preparation, is kind of an accounting headache. A decent spreadsheet can make that a lot easier.

That is why I asked for y'alls' opinions. Not everybody has a need for this, and that is OK. But hopefully the poll will give me some indicator of whether or not any existing need makes this worth pursuing for money. Even if there were no demand, I would still design this thing for my own use.

I could probably reduce my gun collection by a significant amount and make my life simpler. The primary reason I hang onto all of these guns is so that my son may have them when I'm gone. And those guns won't have nearly as much value to him either if he has to run out and spend a bunch of money on ammunition for them too. As it is, he could sell off most my guns and keep the ammo for himself and still be sitting pretty, because he already owns guns himself in most of these calibers ......but that's up to him. Right now, he and his wife struggle to meet the mortgage, put food on the table, and raise my granddaughter. They are young, and this is the season of life they are in. My wife and I went through this kind of period in our lives too. Ammo and range trips are lower on his fiscal priority list than keeping the mortgage lender happy, and keeping my granddaughter fed and clothed. They're no different in that regard than lots of other young parents.

Also, range trips are one of our "father/son" activities, and he can't really afford too much ammo. So most of the time we go, it's my ammo we shoot. I don't mind that if it gives me quality time with my son; but it does mean that I keep more ammo on hand for shooting than I would normally shoot myself, and so that also bumps up my inventory needs.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback so far. It is valuable. I've already realized that I've got to add another column or two to this spreadsheet to log in cost at time of purchase when inventory is added, since cost control is one of the reasons for using it in the first place.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:53 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....
Replies: 37
Views: 6223

Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

Well so far, the feedback is that there would not be much interest in this. That's OK, no hard feelings. As I'm working on it, it just seems like it would be useful to someone else.....but it looks like for those whom it would be useful, they've already got it covered.

Oh well. I'll keep developing it for my own use.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....
Replies: 37
Views: 6223

Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

brhalltx wrote:No, I'd create my own FileMaker database to do that. :txflag:
I thought of offering it as a Bento template, but then decided that any proprietary DB might not be editable by all DB software. I also thought of offering it as an online subscription in a PHP/mySQL system, but decided that the kind of data contained is probably best kept off the Internet where it is more easily hackable. In the end, I decided on a simple spreadsheet because that is what is most commonly available to the most people.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:29 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....
Replies: 37
Views: 6223

Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

So if any of you are like me, you've accumulated a lot of ammunition over the years and have several thousand rounds in assorted calibers in your on-hand ammo inventory. I decided yesterday, prompted by the latest attack on M855 ball ammo, to do a proper inventory of everything that I have on hand, and I decided to create an elaborate spreadsheet to manage it going forward.

Between yesterday and today, I've already got about 8 hours of my time into setting it up, and I'm not done yet. Basically, what I've created is a file with mulitple sheets in it, one sheet per caliber. Under each caliber, I have multiple columns to describe an item on hand—manufacturer, bullet weight, bullet type, etc., etc.—each row representing one item you have on hand. The bottom row gives a sum total on hand for that caliber. Whereever possible, I have reduced the field to a pulldown menu, so all you have to do is select from the list, instead of repetetively typing everything out. Hand entry is reduced to the quantity field, a date field, and an "additional details" field.

The file is of course editable, so you can add or delete selections from a pulldown, add or delete rows from the table in a particular sheet, or add or delete caliber sheets depending on your own circumstances. I have set it up for the following calibers, because that is what I have on hand, but you can very easily copy a sheet to add another caliber, or delete a sheet for a caliber you don't need:
  • .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO
  • .223 Remington/5.56 NATO
  • .30 Carbine
  • .22 LR
  • 7.62x54 Russian
  • .45 ACP
  • 9mm
  • .38 Special
  • .357 Magnum
  • .44 Special
  • .44 Magnum
  • 12 Gauge
  • 20 Gauge
I will eventually creating a similar spreadsheet for reloading components.

The columns (so far) include:
  • Manufacturer
  • Caliber (is it .308, or 7.62 NATO?, etc.)
  • Bullet Weight (or total shot weight for shotshells)
  • Bullet type (or shot type for shotshells)
  • Pressure (Standard, +P, etc.)
  • Quantity
  • "additional details"
  • Date In/Out
Each of the tables in the delivered file will contain a couple of rows of sample data for each caliber, plus a number of blank rows already formatted to receive new data.

Some of the time spent on this consisted of repeatedly going back and "upgrading" what I started out with as I began to require solutions to speed my own inventory process. In the end, I will have spent a lot more time creating the file than I would have on completing the inventory by hand, but it will greatly simplify and speed up my ongoing inventory tracking, which will help me to be more diligent about maintaining it going forward.....and whom among us has no use for something to make diligence easier, right?

What you would be receiving is simply a spreadsheet file, not a fancy app. If there were enough interest to develop an app, I might tackle it, but it would have to be a LOT of people to make it worth the effort for me. Because I keep the file stored in iCloud, it is accessible to me across all of my devices. If you didn't have an iCloud account, you could store it on Google Docs, Dropbox, or some other similar service where it could be available to you across platforms. I am building the file in Apple Numbers, but it would be available as either a Numbers file, or a Microsoft Excel file. Basically, it is a matter of A) whether or not this would be useful to you, and B) what your own time is worth if it would be useful. I would manage online payment for it through Paypal. I already know that Paypal is a problem for some of you, but I've already got a Paypal account and I'm not going to bother going through all the complexities of setting up another merchant processing account for this. The only other possibility is using my SQUARE device for accepting a credit card in a FTF sale.... in which case the cost would be whatever the price is, plus a card processing charge. If you refuse to deal with Paypal, simply answer "No" to the poll, and you can set up your own file.

The file would be delivered along with a link to a page with simple instructions for editing some of the field parameters.

So my question to you guys is, if you could pay a small amount to purchase a spreadsheet file like that as opposed to the hours and hours and hours it would take to create it (creating the logic process itself being part of the creative time involved), would you be willing to do pay for such a file? By "small amount", I'm thinking of something in the range of $5-$10. Keep in mind that if your answer to the poll is "Yes, depends, if you added XYZ calibers", that would drive my selling price up because I am balancing the price to you against the value of my time to me. I can't possibly account for all brands, all calibers, all bullet types/weights, etc., etc., etc., but I have deliberately tried to make it easy to customize for your own needs, if they are different from mine. You just have to know how to use your spreadsheet application.

This file could possibly be adapted to inventory other things as well, such as fasteners, pipe fittings, and other hardware items, gun parts, etc., in which case, I've done the ground-work, but you're on your own to modify it to your needs.

None of this is genius at work. It really boils down to what you thing your own time is worth, and would a small price make it attractive in light of the value of your own time. I have put it up here as a poll to gauge interest because the membership here is about as focused a market sample as I could want for this kind of thing. You can select up to 3 of the 5 possible answers

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