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Beiruty wrote:I never needed this bullet, nor I can find a range that would allow you to shoot it.

Elm Fork allows it on the 50 yard range, and in the tactical bay.

Here is the official BATF notice: http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2015- ... ework.html

jmra wrote:Just had a breaking news flash on my phone that the ATF has decided not to ban the type of ammo in question.
ETA http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepav ... n-n1968508

Evidently, they got the message: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/52-se ... le/2561295

A majority in both the Senate and House — 52 senators, 238 House members — have joined to oppose the Obama administration's move to ban a popular type of ammo used in the top-selling AR-15 rifle and pistol because it pierces police body armor.

A week after the House members, led by Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Bob Goodlatte, sent a letter of opposition to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley echoed that in his own letter signed by 51 others.

C-dub wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03 ... g-mistake/

Now they are claiming it was a publishing mistake that the M855 round was left off the exemption list.

I posted this on the previous page, 2 days ago.

I just ordered this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EN ... UTF8&psc=1.

I bought it because I read this article, which I HIGHLY recommend: http://xtribune.com/2015/01/kill-11-mil ... ve-chills/.

I do love to read about history and past governments and was given this book by a friend. The title piqued my curiosity. Who would write a book like this? “How Do You Kill 11 Million People?” by Andy Andrews. It’s very short and took me all of 25 minutes to read. However, I’ve never been so frightened by a book in my life. I sat in my big, comfy chair with chills racing down my spine and my jaw hanging open. The answer is all too simple and frighteningly, all too familiar.

I’m not going to quote the whole book here, you’ll have to buy your own to read the whole thing, but the points that struck me the most were as follows:

{——SNIP——}

The most dangerous thing any nation faces is a citizenry capable of trusting a liar to lead them….

Have you ever wondered why American doesn’t have a balanced budget? Have you ever in your life heard of a politician who wasn’t for a balanced budget?

Have you ever heard a politician speak in favor of a complicated tax code that ordinary citizens would find difficult to understand? Then why do we have a complicated tax code that ordinary citizens find hard to understand?

By the way, have you ever noticed that if any of us (citizens) lies to them (politicians), it is a felony? But if any one of them lies to us, it is considered politics…

Can 311 million Americans ever hope to wrestle the power away from 545?…”

Oldgringo wrote:I thought the lily livered congress was the outfit that passed laws?

The democrats have assured that they will help current republican leader to remain in office:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/23476 ... up-attempt
Dems vow to protect Boehner from conservative coup

Tea Party Republicans contemplating a bid to oust Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) shouldn't count on Democrats to help them unseat the Speaker.

And without their support, there is no chance to topple Boehner in this Congress.

A number of right-wing Republicans, long wary of Boehner's commitment to GOP efforts attacking President Obama's policy priorities, have openly considered a coup in an attempt to transfer the gavel into more conservative hands.

But Democrats from across an ideological spectrum say they'd rather see Boehner remain atop the House than replace him with a more conservative Speaker who would almost certainly be less willing to reach across the aisle in search of compromise. Replacing him with a Tea Party Speaker, they say, would only bring the legislative process — already limping along — to a screeching halt.

We have a republican speaker who is being protected from his party roots by democrats. We have a republican majority in the Senate, and still can't get enough votes to overcome a presidential veto. How do you like that? With a democrat president, and significant minorities in both houses of Congress, the democrats are still large and in charge, and republican leadership can't bring it home.

Pawpaw wrote:

maintenanceguy wrote:Looks like the ATF already made their decision. The new 2014 Regulation Guide, released this January no longer list M855 as exempt for sporting purposes. The public comment period on this ban is over March 16th but the ATF already printed the new rule. Looks like they really didn't want to know what we thought.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... n-n1966761

Gee, that's a surprise.

BATF says that was published in error: http://controversialtimes.com/news/brea ... ing-error/

rentz wrote:

TVGuy wrote:Colion Noir on possible BAFTE ban of XM855:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-Pu8n_BHg

I enjoy his videos but that one is killing my eyes going in and out of focus.

I have 855 ammo, but i ended up switching to 193 due to some places not allowing the 855/green tip ammo. But as the video says its going to drive the price up on ALL ammo.

It will temporarily drive the price up on other 5.56 FMJ, if for no other reason than the law of supply and demand. All the M855 buyers are now M193 buyers, and that means an increase in demand for M193, without there having been a pre-scheduled increase in production to offset the demand.

As soon as I got this news, I went into "hoarding" mode. I probably have something like 2,000 M855/SS109 on hand, not counting any of the other variants I have for this caliber. It goes without saying that I won't be shooting any of it until I know that it is replaceable. I also have a couple thousand M193 on hand, and as long as that is replaceable, I'll buy it at the higher price and shoot it, and keep my current inventory intact. But I also buy and have on hand a fair amount of 55 grain soft point (a better choice for SD in my opinion) as well as 68/69/75/77 grain HPBT match.

C-dub wrote:

rbwhatever1 wrote:One would think folks are using M855 ball in Pistols to attack all sorts of "armored stuff" from coast to coast creating much turmoil and mayhem for the Crown. I don't have any M855 but this makes me want to order a few thousand rounds to put in storage with my new Ballistic Vest, braced 223 Pistol and any other item I can think of that has been banned in the Kingdom.

We need to ban the BATFE.

You may be joking just a little there, but if you're serious at all I think you're too late. From what I understand, M855 is already nearly impossible to find and what is left has dramatically gone up in price since this announcement.

Yeah, I've just checked my usual resources, and it's pretty much all gone.

suthdj wrote:Is this just ball ammo or does it include SP an HP?

It is specific to M855, on the reasoning that it is "armor-piercing" ball ammo. Standard 55 grain FMJ would be unaffected.