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By the way, another Jonny Grubby video emerged of him insulting Vermonters...... and the Vermont Governor broke the state's $400,000 contract with him.

As to Obama being a liar...... different subject, but it illustrates the point.....

A year ago, he very specifically told an interviewer on the subject of an EO to expand amnesty for illegal aliens that he was NOT an emperor, and that he did not have that power. In a subsequent speech to a crowd who urged him to do exactly that, he said, and I quote, "As much as I want to, that is not how our system works".

So today, as Obama is about to announce his EO expansion of amnesty, an ABC reporter actually confronts Obama's press flack about the inconsistency. Apparently, now that the elections are behind us and he will be out of office in 2 years, he has changed his position, and he believes that he can do anything he wants by EO.

This president is an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to the future of the United States.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whit ... -flip-flop

mojo84 wrote:Bottom line and I forgot believe this, even Obamacare was designed to fail itself. Therefore, Eben left as is, I believe it would be gone within a few years and replaced with a government ran single payer system.

The system we had was broke and needed to be fixed. The trouble getting individuals with preexisting conditions covered was near impossible. The number percentage of people that do not have what was considered a disqualifying preexisting condition was dwindling rapidly. On the other hand, fixing the financing/insurance part without adequately addressing the skyrocketing cost of health care is like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound.

He's right, it WAS designed from the beginning to fail, because "single payer" (actually, it's 330 million payer), was always their goal........an expansion of federal government to become the sole provider of medical care, on the British model.

I like that quote from Proverbs, on page one of this thread.

Well, whatever bull they are selling us, we not only could not keep the plans we liked before Obamacare, we can't keep the one we picked under Obamacare. We are going to have to drop the Obamacare plan we chose, and go for one with fewer benefits, worse coverage, and higher out of pocket costs because we cannot afford it. Eventually, we will be forced onto Medicare......which is of course what the democrats really wanted in the first place, because that is eventually EVERYBODY's premature fate unless this abomination is overturned.

Honestly, I almost hope that this thing pushes us over the edge of a social meltdown, and the democrats all starve to death when people realize that they are nothing more than dead weight on society. What we need is a crisis so deep that people begin tarring and feathering liberals whenever they open their puss-filled yaps.

We received our letter after election day. I suspect that the administration may have had something to do with that. If these notices had gone out a month earlier, republicans would have picked up the New Hampshire and Virginia senate seats, raising the total gain to 10 instead of 8. The House could have been even more dramatic.

As it is, when 2016 rolls around, voters will have either been living with their insurance premium increases, or coverage downgrades, for 2 years, and I don't think democrats will have a prayer.

OTH, I'm no longer convinced that republicans, majority notwithstanding, have all the answers either......or the ones they have are not much better than the democrats. I no longer trust their talk. Now, they'll have to walk the walk if they want my support.

Benjamin Franklin wrote:A republic, if you can keep it.

We got a notice from Blue Cross/Blue Shield 4 or 5 days ago. Beginning on January 1st, our Obamacare coverage goes up $220.00 per month—an increase of 17.26%. That's quite a handsome piece of inflation. I hate democrats.

The thing is, we enrolled in March of 2014, with a start date of 4/1, and we went to our retirement account and withdrew 12 months of premium (less the "subsidy") and set it up in its own checking account from which to pay it. The amount we withdrew would have covered us through March of 2015. But thanks to democrats, that is not to be.

This increase means that our 12 months of premiums actually runs out a month and a half early, which is effectively 2 months early. Thank you, democrats. May your eternity be found inside of Satan's descending colon.

Have I mentioned before just how much I hate democrats?