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Bladed wrote: The fact that open carry activists would go after a gun-rights champion like Senator Birdwell is mind-boggling. They've become so casual in their grenade tossing that they don't even care that most of the grenades are landing in their own trench.

Honestly, I think that OCT has been infiltrated by provocateurs from the left who realize that they can derail most pro gun legislation by whipping OCT into a frenzy over it. Think about it for a minute. Such infiltration has three benefits:

1. it divides the gun rights community
2. it derails legislation and makes politicians wary of working with gun rights groups, and
3. it makes gun rights activism look like a bunch of dangerous looney tunes to the rest of the voters

I think this is a deliberate campaign of political deception and misdirection, and OCT had better clean it's house, or we're all going to be screwed.

tacticool wrote:Beiruty and I were talking about the legislative goal not the cult of personality. Other than that, great post.

Ah, my mistake. Sorry.

tacticool wrote:

Beiruty wrote:1) How do you deny Felons, carrer criminals, and illegal Residents from Carrying?

Other border states like NM and AZ have had unlicensed open carry for a long time without the BLOOD IN THE STREETS that opponents of OC in Texas keep touting. Maybe we could learn something from them.

It's not OC that we have a problem with, it is OCT that is the problem. I would love to see OC passed. The problem from a political standpoint (and it's not getting passed without involving politics) is that OCT has shown itself to be a collection of politically naive bomb-throwers and bridge-burners who:

1. threaten and bully our allies, and
2. threaten to destroy all prior gains made if they can't get their way.

We are known by the company we keep. Serious, MATURE pro-gun voters and politicians don't want to be known by keeping that kind of company because we value our reputations. What's worse is that the crazies of OCT tarnish us all with misplaced guilt by association in the liberal media......because the crazies of OCT fulfill the left's worst fantasies about gun owners and what we stand for......and what we stand against.

If the issue before us was a RE-ratification of the 2nd Amendment, and the proposed amendment did not contain wording which specifically protected Open Carry in its "keep and bear arms" wording, OCT would overturn it as a limitation on the right to keep and bear arms.

They are that stupid.

G.A. Heath wrote:

Bladed wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Numbers 4 and 10 are NRA and TSRA issues and OCT knows it.

Yes, but won't it be nice to have OCT helping out by showing up at committee hearings to insult legislators and provide quotes/soundbites to the media?

This and claiming to have done all the work so that the EVIL NRA and TSRA could claim credit when it passes, ala their new allies: NAGR and GOA.

Charles: I apologize should I fail to remain civil but where NAGR/GOA, and now OCT, are involved I tend to suffer from excessive dislike of lairs.

And I am specifically prejudiced against lairs of liars.