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Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:

While some Second Amendment proponents want to repeal Texas’ ban on open carrying of handguns, Jones of Rice University said GOP leaders may find it easier to pass long-stalled legislation to allow concealed-handgun permit holders to bring their weapons onto college campuses.

To reach a deal, such legislation would probably have to let private colleges opt in and state universities opt out, he said.

I'm not sure what the value would be with the op-out option. I cannot imagine one of the state universities that wouldn't.

Exactly. A toothless campus carry bill is a waste of political capital. Campus Carry should be mandated for public universities, with an opt-in provision for private schools. Then the market can decide which is the better model - carry on campus in public schools, or maybe carry on campus at private schools - with the market demonstrating the public's preference. If private schools which opt out begin to experience a decrease in applications offset by increases at private schools which opt in, then they might change their minds......or accept the fact that their student bodies will become less diverse and more homogenous—which will begin to affect their brand.

By the way, we would also find out if campus carry causes parents to send their kids to private schools that opt out, instead of public schools where campus carry is mandated.

I disagree on this one point. If a private school wants to prohibit carry, they should have to put the "big ugly sign" at each entrance.

I am against an opt out provision for private schools, primarily because there's no such thing as a truly private school. I could accept an opt-out provision, if we define a private school to be one that does not 1) receive one dime of public money in any form; 2) receive any tax benefits from any taxing authority; 3) receive any property or benefits from any governmental agency; 4) have a police force (gives a private school governmental authority); 5) receive any tuition or fee payments made from a governmental grant or a school loan that is backed by any state or federal agency; or 6) anything else I can dream up later.

Chas.

Well, I admit that I hadn't considered public funding of private schools, and I can see your point.

chasfm11 wrote:

While some Second Amendment proponents want to repeal Texas’ ban on open carrying of handguns, Jones of Rice University said GOP leaders may find it easier to pass long-stalled legislation to allow concealed-handgun permit holders to bring their weapons onto college campuses.

To reach a deal, such legislation would probably have to let private colleges opt in and state universities opt out, he said.

I'm not sure what the value would be with the op-out option. I cannot imagine one of the state universities that wouldn't.

Exactly. A toothless campus carry bill is a waste of political capital. Campus Carry should be mandated for public universities, with an opt-in provision for private schools. Then the market can decide which is the better model - carry on campus in public schools, or maybe carry on campus at private schools - with the market demonstrating the public's preference. If private schools which opt out begin to experience a decrease in applications offset by increases at private schools which opt in, then they might change their minds......or accept the fact that their student bodies will become less diverse and more homogenous—which will begin to affect their brand.

By the way, we would also find out if campus carry causes parents to send their kids to private schools that opt out, instead of public schools where campus carry is mandated.

steveincowtown wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I think he has it set up so others do his dirty work so he doesn't have to vote on record for things he doesn't like.

This is always the arguement from the NRA, that they only rate based on voting. Then why does Wendy Davis have and "F" which she voted "Yea" on School Marshalls, Guns in cars on campus, and the expansion of firearms manufacturing in Texas?

(Votesmart.org)

At some point before this session someone from the NRA really needs to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with Straus and let him know if he continues his antics he will no longer have an "A" rating.

Because the rating is based in part on how they answer the NRA's questionnaire, not just on their voting record.

thechl wrote:Of course, absolute statements are always wrong.

20 years ago, I would have agreed with you. I'll stand by my absolute statement today. 20 years in the future, it could be wrong again. But right here and now, it is spot on.

I've been a democrat. I've been a republican. I am neither now. But if I had to let the country "fall into the hands" of one or the other party, I'd go with the republicans.......even though I don't have a lot of respect for the party's leadership. But I have ZERO respect for democrat politicians........who are universally dirty liars.

thechl wrote:As I headed out to vote today it occurred to me that the way to defeat Strauss as Speaker is to not have him re-elected into the House. It pains me to vote for a Democrat, but in this case it might be the only way to 'win.' San Antonio is lost to Democrats already; and even if Strauss loses to a Democrat the Republicans will still hold the House by a large majority!

So, if you're in his distrct and plan to vote...

As bad as Strauss is, there is never anything to be gained by giving a seat to a democrat.