No argument out of me..... except to say that I'm sure there are plenty of police who do know right from wrong, and if pushed far enough by their command structure, would resign rather than carry out illegal orders.VMI77 wrote:While I agree I must note that the only reason this stuff happens is because the people with authority over the police want it to happen. Obama's buddy covered up the Chicago killing and even paid off the family.....that required the consent of a lot of people in the chain of command. The real problem is the criminals holding political office, like the mayor of Chicago, the US AG, and the President. The police on the street do what they're ordered to do and what those in higher authority allow them to do.The Annoyed Man wrote:I've been singing that song for a long time. Community policing breeds respect for the law. When police respond tactically to everything, it erodes the relationship between police and the community. When they use SWAT rolling up in MRAPs to serve simple warrants, it convinces communities that the police are invaders.carlson1 wrote:That DPS Lt. Is spot on. As long as these "paramilitary" antics take place there will be a lot of innocence people and police alike killed for no good reason.Charles L. Cotton wrote:A retired DPS Lt. said it best. "Respect for law enforcement and community relations are rapidly declining because of what cadets are being taught in academies all over the country. Cadets are being taught that they are the pointy end of the spear. They are taught to be not just COPSs, but judge, jury and executioner. That came from a high ranking officer with over 30 years experience. He too longs for the days of community policing.
Chas.
I WANT there to be respect for the law. I WANT police authority to be respected. I absolutely believe that good policing makes the difference between livable and unlivable communities. Good policing is necessary to an orderly society.
When that Chicago officer shot that boy twice, when he could have just as easily tased him, and then shot him 14 more times while he was down, that was just plain indefensible. If he had tased the boy, he might still be alive today. As bad as the death of that young man was (who was after all no angel), what's worse is that the killing pretty much wiped out what little good will still existed between Chicago police and the entire black population of the city.
Bad policing has severe consequences that go beyond the immediate individual events.
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I've been singing that song for a long time. Community policing breeds respect for the law. When police respond tactically to everything, it erodes the relationship between police and the community. When they use SWAT rolling up in MRAPs to serve simple warrants, it convinces communities that the police are invaders.carlson1 wrote:That DPS Lt. Is spot on. As long as these "paramilitary" antics take place there will be a lot of innocence people and police alike killed for no good reason.Charles L. Cotton wrote:A retired DPS Lt. said it best. "Respect for law enforcement and community relations are rapidly declining because of what cadets are being taught in academies all over the country. Cadets are being taught that they are the pointy end of the spear. They are taught to be not just COPSs, but judge, jury and executioner. That came from a high ranking officer with over 30 years experience. He too longs for the days of community policing.
Chas.
I WANT there to be respect for the law. I WANT police authority to be respected. I absolutely believe that good policing makes the difference between livable and unlivable communities. Good policing is necessary to an orderly society.
When that Chicago officer shot that boy twice, when he could have just as easily tased him, and then shot him 14 more times while he was down, that was just plain indefensible. If he had tased the boy, he might still be alive today. As bad as the death of that young man was (who was after all no angel), what's worse is that the killing pretty much wiped out what little good will still existed between Chicago police and the entire black population of the city.
Bad policing has severe consequences that go beyond the immediate individual events.