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- Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:36 pm
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- Topic: Looking for a small 9mm
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- Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:38 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: Looking for a small 9mm
I have not had a problem concealing larger guns. For me, it is about horsepower to weight ratio. I have a bad back, and heavier, larger guns are sometimes more painful for me to carry.....whereas smaller lighter guns are fairly easy for me. Since I tend to carry smaller lighter guns these days, I insist that they be of a credible self-defense caliber. That's why even my small guns are either 9mm, .45 ACP, or .357 Magnum. I don't speak .380.nightmare wrote:I wouldn't have believed it when I first started concealing, but there's not many occasions where I can't conceal an XD with a good belt, holster and the right clothing. For the other times I got a J-frame and speed strips.
- Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:05 am
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Re: Looking for a small 9mm
I have and occasionally carry a Kahr PM9, and my wife's EDC is a Kahr CW9. The CW is the same width as the PM, but it has a longer grip (with additional capacity) and a .5" longer barrel and slide assembly. Both are extremely reliable, with the CW (and CM) line of guns being Kahr's lower cost alternative to the PM line. The differences are mostly cosmetic, and the guns are mechanically identical. The PM9 is absolutely pocketable. It is quite tiny. The CW9 is at the very upper end of pocketable.
Recoil on both guns is what I would call stout, but nowhere near painful. Shooting the smaller PM9 feels to me much like shooting the 3" Kimber I used to own......in other words, not THAT big of a deal, and certainly easier than shooting my scandium-framed .357 snubbie. Accuracy for either Kahr is more than acceptable for a self-defense handgun, and so far, both guns have been dead nuts reliable.
Pricewise, a brand new PM9 is a very expensive gun for what you get (MSRP $958 for the black Melonite-coated slide with night sights like mine), but you can pick up a functionally identical CM9 of the same size for $399 or less.
However, it is worth noting that I also own an XDS-45, which I can also pocket carry when I want to, and it is my EDC. It is a much "nicer" gun than either of the Kahrs from a cosmetics/fit/finish perspective, and it also appears to be much more solidly made. I only carry the PM9 when I really need the gun to disappear.
I have not shot the XDS-9, 9mm Shield, or a Nano yet, so I am not qualified to comment on those. Whatever other qualities the P938 may possess, I think that its larger size puts it mostly outside of the pocket gun category, being more similar in size to the CW9 Kahr. Plus, I'm not one to pocket carry any pistol which has to be carried cocked and locked. There's just too much that can go wrong. However, if you intend only to holster carry, then this one becomes a viable choice.
Recoil on both guns is what I would call stout, but nowhere near painful. Shooting the smaller PM9 feels to me much like shooting the 3" Kimber I used to own......in other words, not THAT big of a deal, and certainly easier than shooting my scandium-framed .357 snubbie. Accuracy for either Kahr is more than acceptable for a self-defense handgun, and so far, both guns have been dead nuts reliable.
Pricewise, a brand new PM9 is a very expensive gun for what you get (MSRP $958 for the black Melonite-coated slide with night sights like mine), but you can pick up a functionally identical CM9 of the same size for $399 or less.
However, it is worth noting that I also own an XDS-45, which I can also pocket carry when I want to, and it is my EDC. It is a much "nicer" gun than either of the Kahrs from a cosmetics/fit/finish perspective, and it also appears to be much more solidly made. I only carry the PM9 when I really need the gun to disappear.
I have not shot the XDS-9, 9mm Shield, or a Nano yet, so I am not qualified to comment on those. Whatever other qualities the P938 may possess, I think that its larger size puts it mostly outside of the pocket gun category, being more similar in size to the CW9 Kahr. Plus, I'm not one to pocket carry any pistol which has to be carried cocked and locked. There's just too much that can go wrong. However, if you intend only to holster carry, then this one becomes a viable choice.