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by The Annoyed Man
Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:41 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: CHL vs Drivers License
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Re: CHL vs Drivers License

Pitt wrote:I'm still troubled we give permission to carry weapons easier then getting a drivers license. And I have to give it to them, they stand by their rules because I went two offices and got the same story, so it wasn't one person having a bad day that gave me a hard time. And for those who don't know, Texas has a new law as of July 2011 that states you prove citizenship when getting a drivers license but you won't read that on the site about getting a drivers license and what to bring. I just took all the items I had the site required, plus a few more, to cover what I needed but the citizenship question came up and nothing I had would do. No common sense used with some of my paperwork and IDs and the fact that I have a CHL (which I produced) to show I'm in the system and with background check.

Please tell me I am not the only one thinking that something is wrong here?

I'm just venting with hopefully like minded people.
Two reactions:
  1. I moved here from California in 2006, with a valid CDL. I had no trouble, other than being required to take the written TDL test, acquiring a TDL. However, when I got my CHL, I had to prove my citizenship because I am a foreign born citizen. My father was American, and my mother French, and I was born in Morocco.....Casablanca to be specific. So I am a citizen from birth, but I had to produce a Certificate of Live Birth (same thing as Obama has) signed in 1952 by the American Consul in Casablanca to prove that I am an American citizen. So from my perspective, it was harder in 2006 to get a CHL than it was to get a TDL, and because of the 2011 law it is today the same degree of difficulty.....so now you are equal to me, instead of you having more rights than I do even though we are both citizens from birth. Welcome to my world.
  2. This is what we get when we allow government to control our lives. The Constitution says nothing about any specific "right" I have to drive a car, but it specifically affirms my right to keep and BEAR arms, saying that such right shall not be infringed. I have a CHL because the law requires it if I want to carry a gun legally, and I am a law-abiding citizen; but I also think we have far too many laws, and at least some of them DO infringe on my right to keep and BEAR arms, in a way that my right of free speech, freedom of religion, etc., etc., are not infringed. Support Constitutional Carry, and all of this goes away. The possession, enjoyment, and exercise of rights are not without risk. LIFE is not without risk. We have submitted to infringements on our rights in the name of risk reduction. We make bargains to exchange liberty for safety. It's unnatural. Personally, I would rather live 50 unfettered years of total freedom, than 100 years in bondage to other people's insecurities. If I die in this world of increased risk, I die. God is good in all regards. And because bad people give exactly "Phhhhht!" to laws, they are not thusly restrained, and the safety purchased by surrendering freedom is merely an illusion anyway. It's all theater. Just let me live free of the petty bureaucrat's sense of entitlement to hem me in.

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