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by The Annoyed Man
Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:12 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Electoral Votes
Replies: 274
Views: 33030

Re: Electoral Votes

rwg3 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I call bull corn. From your article:
Slate OPINION: Mitt Romney lost the election because he couldn't separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism.
Sonnyboy, that "growing extremism" was MAINSTREAM THINKING just 10-12 years ago. It has been mainstream thinking for all of my 60 years. When a party does NOT change its values to fit the fad du jour, that's not "growing extremism." That's "standing your ground for something." The "growing extremism" is entirely on the part of the left. We have been dragged leftward kicking and screaming, and now the right is finally putting its foot down and refusing to cooperate with getting dragged any further......and that's extremism? Please. The left calls anyone an "extremist" who refuses to submit to their extremist tyranny.

Ronald Reagan famously said that he did not leave the democrat party; it left him. In other words, his values did not change, while his former party slid into extremism.

THAT is the true version.

Personally, I've about had it. Big Brother is going to do what it does—no matter how I vote—because Big Brother is what a majority of Americans want. End of story. From now on, I'll concern myself with local matters and turn my back on the rest of it. And by the way, abortion—or, as I like to call it what it really IS, "killing babies"—doesn't happen in the bedroom. It happens in purpose-built abattoirs funded by the radical left through extorting taxes from the rest of us. A MORAL person doesn't even need to appeal to religion to understand that particular evil. The sooner alleged "americans" face that truth, the sooner we can come to an HONEST appraisal of whether or not we DESERVE to continue as a nation, or to be scraped off the planet like a fungus by a vengeful God.
Well I will give you Methuselahan rights to refer to me as "SonnyBoy" By virtue of your 5 more years bruiting your versions of facts on this earth, but I do hope you are smiling when you use that term. Quite simply the country is evolving and what you view as standing your ground is being viewed by a greater number of people as extremism. Our great nation will continue to grow and prosper, with the Grace of God and the willingness of people to work together for the common good. I believe in less government whenever possible. I also believe that that governement has no place in our houses. I also belive that government must be a balance point between the disparate economic forces that truly threaten to tear us apart. If you look back to the late 1800's you may note that we have gone through an economic cycle in which the large corporations got larger, the middle class was in jeopardy and wise heads realized that balance in the marketplace and society was necessary for continued growth. Anti-trust laws and labor laws camw about and brought balance back into the system. We are at a point now where I believe some rebalancing is needed.

A basic difference between us is I am willing to let you live in the world as you view it, I draw the line where it comes to others pushing their beliefs on me.

A final wish if I could, I wish we would as a country would realize the truly destructive nature of the election process that we have grown into. A shorter election cycle and campaign spending linits would go a long way to focusing our public dialogue onto the key points facing the country each election.
OK, I apologize for the "sonnyboy," it's just that your post came off as having been written by one who was not old enough to have a sense of historical perspective.....so I assumed that you are younger than you are.

That said, have you listened to yourself? You sound just like they do. There is a fundamental difference between you and me. I believe in a baseline of morality which is timeless and which has stood mankind in good stead for millennia, across cultures. You believe in a fungible baseline, which keeps changing as extremists push it ever outward..........but I'm the extremist.

Wow.

http://marketdailynews.com/2012/11/08/a ... f268ccf668
And this fundamental shift to the left will be felt in some of the highest institutions in the land. Quite a few Supreme Court justices are in their seventies, and it is quite likely that Barack Obama will get the opportunity to nominate several new justices to the court before the end of his next term.

That means that all of the conservative hopes for the Supreme Court are probably dead in the water at this point. It appears extremely unlikely that Roe v. Wade will ever be overturned, and the court is probably only going to get even more liberal from this point forward.

So what does all of this mean?

Well, it essentially means that the culture war is over and the social conservatives lost. Obviously I would consider this to be a bad thing, because I am someone who believes deeply in traditional values.

The American people have chosen a direction, and the path that they have chosen is the path of “progressive” morality. We are already seeing the consequences of this kind of morality play out all around us, and those consequences are only going to get worse.

But to stop the monumental cultural shift that is taking place right now in this country would take a miracle of epic proportions. Older voters that tend to be more socially conservative will continue to die off, and they will continue to be replaced by younger voters that tend to be more socially liberal.

The American people have made their choices, and those choices will continue to be reinforced by the education system, by the mainstream media, by the entertainment industry and by the federal government.

America has changed, and things will never be the same again.
Just so that we're clear......the VAST MAJORITY of voters who agree with you, that fossils like me are extremists, and not themselves, ALSO want you to surrender your firearms and learn to live happily under their superior wisdom and intellect and benevolent direction. Good luck with that. YOUR president (not mine) is going to appoint justices in the Kagan/Sotomayor mold if Scalia, Kennedy, or Thomas retires. Then say permanent goodbye to the 2nd Amendment, but go ahead and throw us extremist traditionalists on the ash heap of history.

Where does the line form to burn the Constitution? Let's get this nastiness over with so that I can get on with life.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:01 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Electoral Votes
Replies: 274
Views: 33030

Re: Electoral Votes

rwg3 wrote:Well said and a fair analysis!

Also this has some fair points: http://news.msn.com/politics/why-mitt-romney-lost" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The old saying about being all things to all people surely applies to the Romney trail.
I call bull corn. From your article:
Slate OPINION: Mitt Romney lost the election because he couldn't separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism.
Sonnyboy, that "growing extremism" was MAINSTREAM THINKING just 10-12 years ago. It has been mainstream thinking for all of my 60 years. When a party does NOT change its values to fit the fad du jour, that's not "growing extremism." That's "standing your ground for something." The "growing extremism" is entirely on the part of the left. We have been dragged leftward kicking and screaming, and now the right is finally putting its foot down and refusing to cooperate with getting dragged any further......and that's extremism? Please. The left calls anyone an "extremist" who refuses to submit to their extremist tyranny.

Ronald Reagan famously said that he did not leave the democrat party; it left him. In other words, his values did not change, while his former party slid into extremism.

THAT is the true version.

Personally, I've about had it. Big Brother is going to do what it does—no matter how I vote—because Big Brother is what a majority of Americans want. End of story. From now on, I'll concern myself with local matters and turn my back on the rest of it. And by the way, abortion—or, as I like to call it what it really IS, "killing babies"—doesn't happen in the bedroom. It happens in purpose-built abattoirs funded by the radical left through extorting taxes from the rest of us. A MORAL person doesn't even need to appeal to religion to understand that particular evil. The sooner alleged "americans" face that truth, the sooner we can come to an HONEST appraisal of whether or not we DESERVE to continue as a nation, or to be scraped off the planet like a fungus by a vengeful God.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:38 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Electoral Votes
Replies: 274
Views: 33030

Re: Electoral Votes

anygunanywhere wrote:
Texas Dan Mosby wrote:My opinion of my fellow citizens is not very high right about now.
I am still proud of actual citizens, for citizens still belieive in rights, hard work, and personal responsibility.

Those who put the infected pustule back in office are the sponges, the leeches, the komrade socialist ilk that has infested our once beautiful country like a swarm of termites.

Anygunanywhere
See my new signature line.
by The Annoyed Man
Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:57 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Electoral Votes
Replies: 274
Views: 33030

Re: Electoral Votes

Skiprr, it's more than a disappointing day. It's a watershed day. A pivotal day. This is the day that so-called "Americans" (I will never again call them the "loyal opposition," for they are not loyal, they are treasonous) voted to become the United States of Greece. We are one more step along the road to the Balkanization of the nation.

Long live the Republic of Texas.
by The Annoyed Man
Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Electoral Votes
Replies: 274
Views: 33030

Re: Electoral Votes

AEA wrote:262D (Ohio)
203R

We're finished.
Yep. It's done. Stick a fork in us. ONE saving grace, we've actually picked up seats in the House.

I am BEGGING Justices Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, to NOT retire until after 2016.

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