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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:38 pm
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

A friend of mine posted this on another board:

Police: Occupy San Francisco protesters attack officers
By Matthias Gafni
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 11/12/2011 07:41:45 PM PST
Updated: 11/12/2011 09:40:50 PM PST
A female protester emerged from the crowd and an "exacto razor blade attached to a pen or pencil-like object," San Francisco police said in an email.

"The female slashed the inside of the officer's hand and ran back into the crowd before the officer had time to realize he was cut," police said.

In a second incident, a protester grabbed an officer's police radio and ran back into the crowd. As the officer attempted to retrieve it, a second protester blocked the officer and tore his uniform and cut his cheek, police said, intimating that a weapon had been used.

The officer retrieved his radio and both male demonstrators escaped into the crowd, police said.
Nice folks......just like the Tea Party. :roll:
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:21 am
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

steveincowtown wrote:
old farmer wrote::tiphat:

EXXON profits is over 30.5 billion dollars....................................................................................................

No offense old farmer, I am not happy with the State of The Union as well, but the quote above is one of my pet peeves. Exxon made 30.5 billion on Revenues of 383 Billion. This means as a business the made less than 8% net profit at the end of the day.

How many of you own a business, and how many of you would think you were "killing it" if you made 8% net profit at the end of a year?

8% is about what I have made per year on investments over the past 10 years, and all that money had to do was sit there.
THANK YOU!

There are a lot of irrationally angry people on the left who think that a profit of X billion $$ is obscene. But the fact is that they have little or no understanding of the investment that it took to net that profit, and what that profit means as a percentage of revenue, or the amount of dedication and hard work it took to make it happen.

EXXON is accountable to its shareholders. The shareholders have a reasonable expectation of EXXON's performance in its particular market, and that expectation is that EXXON will earn a profit, so that the value of their shares increases. If they cannot expect EXXON to perform, then why should they invest in EXXON to begin with? EXXON's only accountability to its customers is that it offer products of quality and price which are commensurate with its competitors' quality and price. Then the customer is free to choose to buy or not buy EXXON's products. But there is no way that EXXON's profits are obscene, when those profits represent only 8% of revenues. That 8% is their return on investment, and there are lots of corporations which earn a higher ROI than EXXON, but you never hear about it because EXXON is an EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeevil oil company.

Give me a break. Exactly how puny must EXXON's profits be so that people who think that 8% is obscene will be satisfied?

Nobody has a right to decide for someone else how much profit is enough profit. Those kinds of arguments come out of the same kind of mind which says that you don't need a "hi-cap" magazine, or an evil black rifle, or an SUV. It's nobody's danged business what caliber/capacity of pistol I choose to own, or what type of rifle I want to own, or what kind of vehicle I want to drive. Similarly, it is nobody's danged business how much profit EXXON earned in any given year. If you don't like it, buy Shell products instead, and stop contributing to EXXON's profits.........

........the free market at work.
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:11 pm
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

The Mad Moderate wrote:So let me get this straight TAM the Tea Party protesting bailouts and reckless spending is patriotic and these people protesting banks and the benefits the top 1% get are parasites and commies?
Yes. Exactly. You understand me correctly. :mrgreen:

The Tea Party protested government recklessly spending taxpayer money. I'm willing to bet both your income and mine that the vast majority of the Occupy crowd who were of voting age in 2008 voted for Obama and his policies.......including bank bailouts and government motors. The banks (not all, but some of them) took advantage of those bailouts and survived. I argued back then that they should have been allowed to fail. That's capitalism. The commies and the pinkos, they didn't want that. Now they have reaped what they've sown. They are protesting the profits which banks earn, not the reckless spending of taxpayer funds used to bail those banks out. They can go pee up a rope.....and take a bath, PLEASE, when they're finished.

When they work hard enough and smart enough to get into that top 1% themselves, then they too can enjoy the benefits of the amount of work and smarts that it took to get there. You don't like being a less well paid English Lit major? Switch majors to Business & Finance, then get yourself to a good MBA program and sink another 2 or 3 years of your life into that. Then get hired as a management trainee and work your way up the ladder. There's nothing more darwinian than that. Isn't that what liberals love? Darwin?. Getting a BA in Education (which we need, BTW, I'm not disparaging it, and neither am I disparaging how hard teachers work), and then relying on the Unions and blackmailing the taxpayers to get you there isn't going to cut it. It would be an immoral expectation. The choice to be an English Lit or Education major is your choice, not society's choice. Why should society have to pay a penalty for your decision making? When you choose to pursue a somewhat lower paying profession (like being a teacher as opposed to being a doctor or lawyer), or a fairly low paying profession (like being an artist or a musician as opposed to being a carpenter or a janitor), then you are choosing everything that comes with that—including the lowered financial means. There is nothing inherently wrong in making those kinds of choices, but there is something inherently wrong with having expectations for material benefit which are not commensurate with those choices. That is one major difference between a grownup and a child. I have a brother who is a dedicated liberal and a musician. He does not complain about not getting rich doing it. As he told my mother years ago when she expressed worry about his financial future, "mom, it is my art, and I'm willing to accept the consequences of making that choice." Apparently, the "Occupy" crowd is not willing to accept the consequences of their choices—and that makes them either children, commies, or both.

Not one shred of sympathy for their cause from me.

Me? I've chosen self-employment, in a field which is under tremendous pressure in this economy by the way. Things are HARD right now. But you don't see me protesting the rich for being rich. That's just dumb. When you put up barriers to them remaining rich by progressively confiscating more and more of someone's riches, you're putting up barriers against ME getting rich. I work as hard as I do, and put up with as little net income as I do, because I am betting that this will all pay off in the long run and I'll be able to retire comfortably on the results of my efforts. It is tough. It is hard. If you don't have the stomach for it, why should I be penalized when I finally get there?

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the Occupy crowd. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. I hate the president even more than I hate the occupy crowd because he has chosen to make this election into a class war and divide the country until he conquers it. He can go straight to Hades. Like I said in another post, I hope he chokes on a chicken bone. You want examples of why?

'Occupiers' killing stimulus-funded sod in D.C.

Obama: GOP Wants "Dirtier Air, Dirtier Water, Less People With Health Insurance"..........Yes, we are the devil, apparently. I hope he chokes on TWO chicken bones.

White House insists Obama's next bus tour isn't political...........Do you really believe that? Obama's campaign is already in full court press, and he is using the taxpayer money to support "Occupy." Don't believe it? Here's the next headline:

Obama extends support for protesters

Obama blasts, mocks Senate GOP............in a senate with a democrat majority. Why hasn't he said anything about the two democrats who threw the vote against his party? They're the ones who are responsible. If he had enjoyed party solidarity, it wouldn't have mattered what republicans did. Gee.... could there be something wrong with his approach?

China: Occupy Wall Street's issues worth thought (You want to be on the same side of an issue as the COMMUNIST Chinese? Yes....the protesters are commie parasites.)

Dismiss all charges or we will clog up courts, lawyers for Occupy Wall Street protesters say............Blackmail? Gee, maybe if they comported themselves responsibly like the Tea Party protesters did, they would not have been arrested and charged in the first place. Tea Party event attendees didn't break the laws. They made their opinions known, and they got political results, and almost none were ever arrested. It's the difference between responsible adult behavior and "gimme, gimme, gimme," irresponsible childish behavior.

So yeah. They are parasites and commies.......
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:19 pm
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Views: 21013

Occupy Wall Street

Apparently, the commies are not above a little healthy capitalism:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... Categories

The irony abounds. Half of the unwashed are wearing T-shirts with corporate logos, from Dairy Queen to Apple Computers. Capitalist products carried them to the protests. Their jeans, underwear, shoes, iPhones, and backpacks are all products of capitalism. The food they eat (they are incapable of producing their own) is a product of capitalism. The homes and apartments they live in are built by capitalists. The parents who support them are employed and paid by capitalists. The taxes which pay for road maintenance for their Prius and paramedic care if they are injured are paid by capitalists.

And these ignorant hypocrites are also perfectly willing to raise money by selling products on eBay......

.....so what's their beef? :roll:

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