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by The Annoyed Man
Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:59 am
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Topic: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administration
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Gibson goes on the offensive
Guitar maker's CEO vows fight, says feds' raids went too far
TheTennissean.com
Eleven days ago, Gibson Guitar CEO Henry Juszkiewicz was getting ready for work when he got a phone call at home from his assistant, whose voice sounded panicky.

Half a dozen armed federal agents with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service were searching the Gibson executive suite. Two of the company’s South Nashville guitar factories also had just been raided, along with one in Memphis.

By the time Juszkiewicz (pronounced Juss-ka-witz) reached his office, agents were forensically imaging his computer and carting out boxes of paperwork and company hard drives. At the factories, agents were loading trucks with pallets of rosewood and ebony, guitars, guitar necks, computers and shipping documents.


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In recent days, Gibson’s CEO has gone on a counterattack, telling various talk radio and TV news programs that the raids are an “outrageous abuse of federal power” that have unfairly singled out his company, perhaps for political reasons.

“There’s no doubt we’re being persecuted,” Juszkiewicz said. “But while I was sitting in my conference room, while agents blocked the door to my office, I decided two things. One, we were going to try and fight this in court. Secondly, we were going to give this issue visibility.”
A) I have been posting and following up on this story in other sites around the Internet, exactly because it needs to have visibility. This allegedly pro-jobs administration has unfairly singled out a job provider, who happens to be a supporter of republican causes, when the core issue behind the Lacey Act is American jobs versus foreign jobs (read the article for the explanation of that). If it walks like a wolverine and talks like a duck, it isn't a duck.

B) My next guitar purchase will be a Gibson. Not a Martin (which company's CEO is a big democrat supporter and has been spared what is happening to Gibson even though they buy the same woods from the same source). Not a Taylor (Bob Taylor is an OK dude, but why isn't he speaking up when his industry is under attack, when he buys his woods from the same sources?). Not a L'Arrivée (my primary guitar is a L'Arrivée and they make some of the finest guitars in the world, but Jean L'Arrivée has remained as silent as Bob Taylor............and they use the same wood sources as the others).

C) What about violin manufacturers? They use the same woods as guitars: http://www.theviolinsite.com/violin_mak ... _wood.html. How long before they come under fire if they support republican causes like Juszkiewicz does? And then what about makers of violas, stand-up bass, cellos, etc? ALL of these instruments mean AMERICAN jobs filled by skilled craftsmen. They use imported ebony woods in the fingerboards, just like guitar makers do. They use rosewood in the necks and bodies just like guitar makers do.

Guitars are not unique to this country. They weren't invented here. But there is no stringed instrument that is so quintessentially American as a guitar. When guitar makers are selectively persecuted based on their political affiliations by a democrat government for allegedly violating a law that protects foreign labor ahead of American labor, there is something that stinks like dead bodies in DC.

I hate this kind of crap.
by The Annoyed Man
Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:23 pm
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philip964 wrote:Besides Drudge where is the coverage?

I'll people talk about is more jobs, more jobs. Here is a company who is employing Americans and they get this.

If I was the owner I would be looking right now at moving the factory out of the US and simply importing the guitars.
Here's some more coverage:

Fretful practices
Rosslyn Smith
AmericanThinker.com
8/28/11
If enforcing a foreign law to the determent of an American manufacturing business isn't enough, we now learn that Gibson's CEO is a Republican donor and that Feds seem to have given a pass to a rival operation following the same practice that is owned by a Democrat donor
One of Gibson's leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Company. The C.E.O., Chris Martin IV, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of election cycles. According to C.F. Martin's catalog, several of their guitars contain "East Indian Rosewood." In case you were wondering, that is the exact same wood in at least ten of Gibson's guitars.
Anyone surprised? I for one am not. This is Chicago politics, democrat style, coming straight out of the Oval Office from the Charlatan in Chief. They do not love the Constitution because it is an impediment to their desire to steal all power over The People.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:17 pm
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raptor wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:not to mention that counties or cities are dry because that's the way the majority of voters wanted it at the time. Back then, that was democracy in action.
What happens with the Obama administration, including this, is the result of democracy in action.
I'll bet you $100 that democrat congress critters did not publicize to their constituents that this was in the bill. That's not so much democracy in action. That's deliberately hiding what you're doing so The People don't find out about it until its too late. Kinda like when Pelosi said that they would have to pass the healthcare bill so that we can find out what's in it. :roll:
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:05 am
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VMI77 wrote:Everyone should be scared if this guys is right (http://thesilicongraybeard.blogspot.com/):

This amendment deals with illegal plants -- the primary thrust being illegal wood. Henceforth, all wood is to be a federally regulated, suspect substance. Either raw wood, lumber, or anything made of wood, from tables and chairs, to flooring, siding, particle board, to handles on knives, baskets, chopsticks, or even toothpicks has to have a label naming the genus and species of the tree that it came from and the country of origin. Incorrect labeling becomes a federal felony, and the law does not just apply to wood newly entering the country, but any wood that is in interstate commerce within the country. Here are some excerpts from a summary:

Looking around my house, not one piece of wooden furniture - either the ones I built or the ones I bought - has a label telling the genus and species it came from along with the country of origin. Certainly the toothpicks and knife handles don't. I see perhaps 2 dozen felonies within eye shot. Perhaps I should shut up about that.

Anyone who imports into the United States, or exports out of the United States, illegally harvested plants or products made from illegally harvested plants, including timber, as well as anyone who exports, transports, sells, receives, acquires or purchases such products in the United States, may be prosecuted.
Democrats did this. A republican president vetoed it. Democrats over-rode his veto. I know that there are good, patriotic democrats on this board. I have two questions for them:

1) Are you in favor of this? This will not be removed from the law without a change of administration.

2) If yes, then nothing more needs to be said. If no, then who are you going to vote for in 2012—Obama? Whichever republican wins the primary? Or a 3rd party candidate, helping to throw the election to Obama?
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:33 am
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i8godzilla wrote:I willing to bet that Gibson does not use union workers.
I'll also bet that they are very well paid because they are true craftsmen. People like that don't just walk in off the street. They don't actually need a union. If Gibson didn't want to pay them what they are worth, then I'm sure that Martin or L'Arrivee would be happy to take them on. It's the marketplace in action.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:53 am
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Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administration

TomC just sent me this link:
http://www.gibson.com/absolutenm/templa ... 0&zoneid=6
The Justice department bullies Gibson without filing charges

The Federal Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. has suggested that the use of wood from India that is not finished by Indian workers is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because it is the Justice Department’s interpretation of a law in India. (If the same wood from the same tree was finished by Indian workers, the material would be legal.) This action was taken without the support and consent of the government in India.

On August 24, 2011, around 8:45 a.m. CDT, agents for the federal government executed four search warrants on Gibson’s facilities in Nashville and Memphis and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. Gibson had to cease its manufacturing operations and send workers home for the day, while armed agents executed the search warrants. Gibson has fully cooperated with the execution of the search warrants.
This is the SECOND time this administration has done this:
In 2009, more than a dozen agents with automatic weapons invaded the Gibson factory in Nashville. The Government seized guitars and a substantial amount of ebony fingerboard blanks from Madagascar. To date, 1 year and 9 months later, criminal charges have NOT been filed, yet the Government still holds Gibson’s property. Gibson has obtained sworn statements and documents from the Madagascar government and these materials, which have been filed in federal court, show that the wood seized in 2009 was legally exported under Madagascar law and that no law has been violated. Gibson is attempting to have its property returned in a civil proceeding that is pending in federal court.
The "Justice" department has asked the judge in the civil suit to suspend the case indefinitely.

This is not just about guitars, although it is one of the worlds great guitar-makers that has been affected. This is about Obama's apparent decision to put foreign law about the use of foreign resources above U.S. law, even when the foreign government involved has approved the use of the resources in question.

Eric Holder has to go. Obama has to go.

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