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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:06 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: No-Win Situation: I'll mind my own business!
Replies: 21
Views: 4902

Re: No-Win Situation: I'll mind my own business!

papajohn1964 wrote:
Dirty Bob wrote:Scary incident on Monday, May 30th:

Yellow Shirt turns to me and yells, "Sir, please call the police." At that point it got ugly, with a 2-on-1 fight that went into a side yard. I got on the phone and told police dispatch of a 2-on-1 assault, along with descriptions and the address.
You did a good job but I'm not sure that the BG would be the one asking you to call the police.
Even a bad guy will call for the police if it means self-preservation. I was living in Los Angeles when Richard Ramirez—the "Night Stalker"—went on his killing spree which culminated with his being severely beaten by an angry mob who would have killed him if police hadn't arrived and saved his life. He didn't call them, but I'll bet he was mighty glad they showed up. Sadly, he is still awaiting execution on California's Death Row in San Quentin. Texas would have fast-tracked him and put the animal down. But that said, we don't get to make that judgement as individuals. We're a nation of laws, and murder is murder, even if the victim is himself a murderer/pedophile/rapist/whatever. Even back in "eye-for-an-eye" biblical times, the accused was to be brought before a judge and could not be convicted on the testimony of just one witness—and could not have death by stoning or whatever means imposed without a conviction rendered by a judge.

Since we cannot possibly know if Yellow Shirt was innocent, or simply got caught doing something wrong, the question of his guilt or innocence cannot be a part of the calculus if we are deciding whether or not to intervene. Like I said, it stinks; but murder is murder, and I would have a very hard time just witnessing and reporting a murder without intervening to prevent it if I possibly could. I'm not saying that I would necessarily do it, I'm just saying that the urge to intervene would be very powerful, and there would have to be some very clear cut reasons for NOT intervening.

I have to sleep at night.
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:27 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: No-Win Situation: I'll mind my own business!
Replies: 21
Views: 4902

Re: No-Win Situation: I'll mind my own business!

MoJo wrote:You did the right thing. BE A GOOD WITNESS! CHLs aren't cops or vigilantes if the one who was being strangled got away there was no need for further intervention on your part. :thumbs2:
I agree........but what if he hadn't gotten away? I know that I have absolutely no idea why the other two were assaulting YS, but murder is murder, even if you're murdering a pedophile. If he had not gotten away, I would find it almost impossible not to intervene—even though it stinks, and even though he may have deserved it, and even though I own the results of intervening, and even though it is a lose/lose situation. Why? Because I would hope that someone would do it for me.

Am I wrong?

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