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seamusTX wrote:This is a public reference to the medical residency program at Garland:

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It looks like residents work in that facility under faculty supervision as part of their education.

I've said my piece. There's no case law in this area. Do what you think is best.

- Jim

I hear you, I just don't think the law applies here, because this isn't really part of the hospital, although it shares some structural features with the hospital. It isn't a teaching area. It isn't an inpatient area. It isn't a hospital admin or support services area. It is simply a more or less separate wing of the building that is occupied entirely by doctor's offices, and it has its own separate entrance from the other entrances that go into the "hospital" part of the structures.

seamusTX wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Since all the other entrances to the buildings are posted, and since this entrance is fairly busy, I am convinced that it not posted by design.

What do you mean by that? Do you mean they intentionally posted some entrances and not others?

- Jim

I think so. I really do. There is a medical offices building that is kind of grafted onto one side of the hospital building. It is possible to access the hospital from within the medical offices building, but nobody really goes through that entrance except outpatients visiting their doctors. In other words, it isn't really part of the hospital. It's pretty much for doctor's office visits only. This is a pretty conservative area. People don't really panic about guns, I've noticed.

couzin wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:The east entrance to the medical offices building attached to the east side of Baylor Grapevine on the south side of the multi-level parking structure is most definitely NOT posted. I'm in and out of there with regularity.

Admittedly it has been over a year since there - but the north entrance into the professional offices from the top of the north parking garage was posted (a hospital entrance is over to the right (west looking) (again - way over a year ago). I parked in the handicapped right near the door and could clearly see it. Maybe it has changed. I never went in the east entrance. "By design" though - I would wonder why? If professional side is not posted, then are there signs going through the portal to the hospital side?

Yes, you are correct about that entrance you used. My wife had to see a doctor through that entrance just a week ago, and she had to disarm and leave her gun in the car. But the east entrance into the medical offices building, on the ground floor, is most definitely not posted. As I said above, I'm pretty sure you can access the hospital from the offices building, but I've never actually used that means of entering the hospital proper, so I can't tell you if that particular entrance to the hospital is posted or not.

couzin wrote:Most of the Baylor Dr. and lab offices I've been in are not posted. Their hospitals and outpatient units are posted (again, the ones I've been in - Fort Worth hospital district (Hospital and outpatient), Grapevine (hospital and offices - same building), the Baylor Terrell Dr. and lab offices).

The east entrance to the medical offices building attached to the east side of Baylor Grapevine on the south side of the multi-level parking structure is most definitely NOT posted. I'm in and out of there with regularity. Since all the other entrances to the buildings are posted, and since this entrance is fairly busy, I am convinced that it not posted by design. There IS a sign there that, at a quick glance, looks like it might be a 30.06 sign, but it is actually an admonition to not smoke anywhere inside the premises.

I'll try to take a picture the next time I'm there and post it here.