I'm going to have to split the difference with you....Grog wrote:There are always gonna be people who say the Taurus/KelTec/etc are not good enough, spend $$$ and get a S&W/Sig/H&K/etc.
I've had a Taurus 85ch for about five years and it works fine. The steel frame .38 is hard to screw up, and they have been building them as long as I remember. A friend had a stainless 85 and used it as his off-duty gun all the time.
We have a Taurus 1911, and it is a good gun - well made and accurate. I also have a Keltec. It's a dog.