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by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:47 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: When Your Plastic is Approved but Not in Hand.
Replies: 27
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Re: When Your Plastic is Approved but Not in Hand.

seamusTX wrote:As people in a higher pay grade than I have pointed out, if the Legislature realizes that it is possible for a Texas resident to skirt the intentions of the Texas statutes by having an out-of-state license, eventually Texans will not be allowed to use an out-of-state license in Texas.

Several states already have such provisions.

- Jim
And fundamentally, I agree with that position. But I'm not trying to skirt the law by having a CFP instead of a CHL, and at least one of those at a higher pay grade, whom I shall not name but his initials are Charles L. Cotton, is considering teaching a Utah CFP class himself.

I think the solution is for every CHL holder who attends a gun show, or in some other venue runs into one of those folks who irresponsible market the idea of getting a CFP instead of a CHL, to stand there in front of their booth and lecture them about the damage they are doing to the rights of those who have both permits. Because if they don't knock it off, then my CFP will one day be worthless to me.... unless I intend to travel to Washington, Ohio, or West Virginia - which ain't likely any time soon.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:39 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: When Your Plastic is Approved but Not in Hand.
Replies: 27
Views: 3437

Re: When Your Plastic is Approved but Not in Hand.

Apparently, this is one of those cops who would prefer you on first contact to say, "I have a gun!" :roll:
Mike1951 wrote:The trooper's statements do seem to indicate infamiliarity with the MPA.

However, I share the opinion of some that you don't get to pick MPA or CHL, whichever is more convenient. It is my opinion that when your CHL is issued, MPA goes out the window, even if the firearm is being transported in a manner allowed by MPA. Say you typically carry one in the console, but one day you have left your CHL on the dresser. If you get stopped, don't expect to convince the officer that you were carrying under the MPA, so your license wasn't required.

The OP's situation would best be addressed by more information displayed in response to queries, such as 'Approved-pending receipt', 'Mailed to recipient on 00/00/0000', or something to convey it may not yet be in possession. This would not require legislation, as it is just procedure.

This warrants a discussion with the DPS department head that has corrected other processing issues.
That begs the question then, what if your CHL has been suspended pending the conclusion of a shooting investigation? Are you barred then from having a gun in your vehicle at all, even under the MPA? After all, you temporarily do not have a CHL. Or, what if you renewed, but you haven't received the new plastic yet and your old plastic expires?

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Since, to the best of my knowledge, a non-resident Utah CFP is not predicated on holding a valid permit from the state of residence, this is a good reason to have one so that the CFP authority overlaps the CHL authority. This is one of the reasons I got my CFP — so that in the event that my current CHL expired before the renewal plastic arrived in hand, I could still carry under my CFP.
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