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Dragonfighter wrote:There ya go. I can allow or deny entry to anyone I want and for any reason. I can also place conditions on it. It's that simple. If you enter my home and I discover something about you I disdain, I WILL kick you out...maybe literally.

See that? You managed to restate my thought in a much less convoluted fashion. You're makin' me look bad, man!

chuckybrown wrote:I read the OP entry, expecting at least some of you (us) to come forward in support. However, it seems many are too worried about standing for what's right in fear of the unknown...at least in the form of providing advice.

It's not fear of the unknown. It's common sense advice to not unnecessarily risk losing a job during an economic slowdown in which new jobs are harder to come by. It's easy for you to chide others when it's not your job on the line, so maybe you should lighten up a little bit.

Ok, flame me now......I expect it.

Nah... unlike some folks, I'm not a hothead. Maybe a little introspection is in order.

Before you do, I too am trying to find a way, (and I will) to cover this same issue with my employer. It's a constitutional right, not an EMPLOYER GIVEN PRIVILEGE. By our acquiescence, we allow them to govern that which they are not LEGALLY entitled to govern.

Chucky-B

That argument doesn't really address the issue. You're employer can infringe your freedom of speech if they want to. Go ahead... try to make sexually inappropriate comments to one of your female coworkers and see what happens. They'll fire you in a New York minute... ...but, but, but... what about your freedom of speech rights? They can't do that, can they?

Another example... ...you have a right to insist that any stranger who enters your home (electrician, milk man, cable guy, whatever) not be armed. Now, most of us would argue that you have little to fear in your own home from a fellow CHL holder, stranger or not. But if you are exceedingly paranoid, and you really don't know anything about a stranger's character, then you could begin insisting that anyone who enters your home leave their weapon in their vehicle, and forbid them to park that vehicle on your property as long as there is a gun in it.

Now, substitute "your company's name" for "your home." It may not be morally defensible, and from our standpoint it is not, but your company has every right under the law to insist that its employees not carry a weapon into the building. We are an at-will employment state. You won't go to jail for carrying into the building in contravention of the employee manual, but you will get fired. Companies do this because they can.

The answer isn't to write letters to your HR department and anger succeeding levels of management, all who have some say in your continued employment — because they don't care about whether or not it inconveniences you. The answer is to write letters and apply any other pressure necessary to your elected state representative and state senator to ensure that the "parking lot" bill gets passed in the next legislature. You'll never be able to take away a company's right to insist that the employees not bring a weapon inside (because they have certain property rights which trump your rights when you are on their property) — any more than you could take that right away from a home owner on his/her own property. BUT, you can get legislation passed adding a "parking lot exception" to the CHL law which would protect CHL holders from being fired for securing their weapons in their vehicles before going inside that will at least ensure that you are not forced by company policy into being disarmed while traveling to and from work.

That would be far more profitable than urging someone to take actions which might result in his dismissal at worst, and at the very least educate his employer in proper 30.06 signage so that you and I would also be prevented from carrying inside — even though we don't work there.

idrathernot wrote:This letter is going back to HQ in California and I do not know anyone in a position of authority to handle the inquiry.

Good luck with that one. I was a pretty much life long California resident until 2006. Sending it there is simply going to ensure that you cannot even store your weapon in your car. In fact, it might very well ensure a decision on their part as to whether or not they consider you a "good fit" in their corporate culture.

Like gregthehand said, it is better to simply pursue better possibilities without burning your bridges behind you if at all possible.