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by The Annoyed Man
Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:13 pm
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Topic: Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?
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Re: Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?

TheArmedFarmer wrote:
suthdj wrote:It is real. I can forward it to you, if you like.
I believe you. I've just never heard anybody refer to the U.S. as a "nation-state" and that set off an alarm in my head, I guess.
The words "nation state" distinguish between "nations" such as a people group (Cherokee Nation, for instance), and "nations" such as a sovereign national entity with borders, citizens, a national government, a military, and full diplomatic recognition.

And to forestall argument, I'm not saying there is no Cherokee Nation, but such as it is, it is not an entirely sovereign entity.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:50 pm
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Topic: Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?
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Re: Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?

I don't think this will have much impact, if any at all, on the local level. As others have pointed out, I don't see some small town constable allowing Interpol agents to run rough shod over due process.

And realistically, as much as I hold Obama's alleged vision and his complete lack of wisdom in contempt, I don't seriously think that he would allow any former POTUS/VPOTUS to be remanded for trial by an international court — the reason being that it would open him up to the same risk. I don't think he gives a rip about American sovereignty, but I do think that (as a lawyer) he understands potential liability.

What disturbs me about this most is that it is merely part of an overall devaluing by the administration of American exceptionalism. They really don't think that the U.S. is any better a nation than Paraguay or Sudan. They don't value the Constitution, so they are willing to fritter away its protections. They don't value that we live in the most exceptional nation in the history of mankind — NOT because I think that an American life is inherently worth more than the life of a citizen of any other nation, but because I believe that this administration genuinely does not understand the special mix of conditions that it took to create the exceptional nature of the U.S.

At least, that's my 2¢.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:38 pm
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Topic: Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?
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Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?

National Review
The Corner blog
Wednesday, December 23, 2009
Andy McCarthy
Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law? [Andy McCarthy]

You just can't make up how brazen this crowd is. One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.

Interpol is the shorthand for the International Criminal Police Organization. It was established in 1923 and operates in about 188 countries. By executive order 12425, issued in 1983, President Reagan recognized Interpol as an international organization and gave it some of the privileges and immunities customarily extended to foreign diplomats. Interpol, however, is also an active law-enforcement agency, so critical privileges and immunities (set forth in Section 2(c) of the International Organizations Immunities Act) were withheld. Specifically, Interpol's property and assets remained subject to search and seizure, and its archived records remained subject to public scrutiny under provisions like the Freedom of Information Act. Being constrained by the Fourth Amendment, FOIA, and other limitations of the Constitution and federal law that protect the liberty and privacy of Americans is what prevents law-enforcement and its controlling government authority from becoming tyrannical.

On Wednesday, however, for no apparent reason, President Obama issued an executive order removing the Reagan limitations. That is, Interpol's property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

Interpol works closely with international tribunals (such as the International Criminal Court — which the United States has refused to join because of its sovereignty surrendering provisions, though top Obama officials want us in it). It also works closely with foreign courts and law-enforcement authorities (such as those in Europe that are investigating former Bush administration officials for purported war crimes — i.e., for actions taken in America's defense).

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Steve Schippert has more at ThreatsWatch, here.
This can't be good.

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