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Paladin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:39 pm

Anything above 85 dBA can damage the small hair cells in your ears and affect your hearing health, either over time or—if it's loud enough—immediately.

I still wear double ear pro even with a silencer. That gets the noise comfortably under 85 dB.

I like this chart too, so I stole it from you.

I also use earpro with a suppressor, particularly now since I’ve already gone deaf in one ear. That said, I have shot suppressed rifles with no earpro in an outdoors environment like out in a field, where there were no walls around to "contain" the sound and make it reverberate, and as along as I or my observer were behind the gun…whether on the gun, or standing a few feet behind…it was quite comfortable without earpro. And that was with supersonics. With suppressed subsonics, it was magical.

FWIW, I recently bought a set of those Axil in-ear plugs with microphones and active sound attenuation, and they work pretty well. I used them for the first time at ETTS just a week ago, shooting both suppressed and not suppressed, and they were great. The real test was shooting my SCAR 17 with a muzzle brake and no suppressor. My son hated it, but I was good to go.

Paladin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:43 pm

Ruark wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:58 pm The main issue will be political pushback. TENS OF MILLIONS of voters believe suppressors make a gun go "pfft."

I think the political pushback will be weak once everyone realizes that that is hollywood fiction.

I fairly frequently have this conversation with ignorant people who think that suppressors make a gun hush puppy quiet. I’ve even offered to take them to a range and prove my point. They don’t want to know. They don’t want to experience a thing that will falsify the ground on which they’ve staked all of their beliefs.

Just ONCE, I explained to someone that a can knocks maybe 30-35 dB off of a muzzle report, bringing it down from 160-170 dB to 130-140 dB, and he acknowledged that 130 dB was loud enough to not really be hearing safe.

Retards are gonna retard.

ELB wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:18 pm The ATF made more attempts to kill the suppressor lawsuit but that has come to nought.

As I understand the current status, the judge in the case has asked the parties if they really need a trial to sort this out or can it be done with motions and a summary judgment. It appears both sides of agreed they can do this by paper rather than have a trial, so they met on November 9 to work out the details. I don’t know when the motions are due but essentially both sides are gonna make the best arguments on paper and the judge will decide.

This guy does good summary of what’s going on at the federal level, but the titles of his YouTube videos are very click-baity. Nevertheless I think it’s worth listening to him.

Yes, that’s a pretty good summary.