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by The Annoyed Man
Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Different Triggers On Different ARs in Safe.
Replies: 5
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Re: Different Triggers On Different ARs in Safe.

Iunnrais wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:13 pm The CMC probably has a theoretical advantage on follow up shots though with its shorter travel & reset.
I’ve bought Timneys instead of CMMGs, but the point is still true. A good aftermarket single stage trigger breaks like a glass rod, with no creep, and has a short—and more importantly positive—and clearly audible reset. They are magical. I’ve owned the 2-stage competition trigger that Bushmaster used to put in its varmint rifles, and it was very good. My son has a Rock River lower with their 2-stage trigger from their 24” varmint rifle which I have fired a number of times, and it is also very good.

In my own opinion, If you’re building a hunting or precision rifle, then a 2-stage is probably the way to go. But if you’re building a "fighting rifle", then I believe a single stage is the way to go because it simply feels like a very improved milspec trigger.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:35 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Different Triggers On Different ARs in Safe.
Replies: 5
Views: 8122

Re: Different Triggers On Different ARs in Safe.

I have one AR lower with a Timney 3 lb single stage trigger. Another has a "tuned" milspec, and the rest are all milspec. I do not have trouble switching from one to the other, because I already know what to expect whenever I pick up that particular rifle. I also have a 3.5 lb Timney in my SCAR 17. In the past, I have owned a varmint rifle AR that had a 2 stage trigger with a 1.5 lb break. It never gave me any problems. That said, it do feel like it was too light for a fighting rifle.

I have two bolt guns in .308, one of which is a precision rifle with a 2.25 lb Timney in it. Both rifles are so different one from the other that, again, I have no trouble switching between triggers. My SCAR came from the factory with an atrocious 8.5 lb trigger, rendering it unsuitable in my option as a combat weapon…which is strange given how much FN charges for the darn things, and which is why I dropped in a Timney.

The question for me isn’t so much whether I can switch between rifles without confusing triggers. The question is whether or not the trigger weight is safe for combat use. Other than in a sniper role from standoff distances, I think that 3 lb is an absolute minimum safe pull in a combat rifle, at least with a single stage, and 4-5 lbs is probably better. My old M1A had a double stage trigger with a 4.5 lb break that was about perfect. Generations of Americans have defended this nation's interests, including in a LOT of combat, with M16/M4 variants that averaged 6-7 lbs trigger pull weights.

As for the difference between single and double stage triggers, I think it is largely a matter of personal preference. Having owned both, neither is "better" than the other. I just have a preference for single stage triggers. Even so, I have owned 2-stage triggers and got along just fine with them. A bigger issue for single stage triggers is how much take up there is before the break, and the quality of it. It should be minimal, and without grittiness.
troglodyte wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:21 pm Am I over complicating it?
A little bit. Whatever your setup is, train with it. You’ll be fine.

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