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Ruark wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:50 pm This is where those stories come from about LEO's emptying their magazines at a subject 3-5 yards away and missing.

Many years ago back in California, my neighbor across the street was an undercover detective in the LA County Sheriff's narco squad. He once told me about a gunfight involving one of his colleagues who cornered a dealer behind a shower curtain in the small back bathroom of a crackhouse they were raiding. Both the detective colleague and the crack dealer expended all of their rounds inside the confines of that bathroom, and neither was hit.

It’s hard to believe that things could go that way, but it apparently does happen. I believe that Correia calls it the FIBSA Factor (fudge, I’m being shot at), and it shows up in a lot of his videos.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:50 am John Correia (Active Self Protection) has viewed over 30,000 real life incidents of violence. He has not seen a civilian reload that affected the outcome of the fight.

This seems to indicate that we will win or lose the fight with the ammunition in our gun when the fight starts.

Correia further says that he is seeing multiple attackers with increasing frequency.

I watch Correia's channel every day—one reason being is that my wife likes it and has learned a lot from it. I like it too, but I’m grateful that she does because she’s not really a "gun person". That said……

While I agree that it is possibly unlikely that I would need to expend all 16 rounds in my G19 in order to affect a stop, it is also possible that I might—under the stress of the situation—shoot to slide lock and find myself winchester on ammo. I hope that I’d have more control than that, but I’ve never been in a gunfight, and I won’t know for absolute certain how I’d respond until the day it happens—which I pray never comes. I almost always carry 2 spare mags with any gun I carry. I don’t carry that many because I expect to expend 46 rounds in a fight. I carry them because (1) I may wish to perform an administrative reload after the shooting stops, and (2) I acknowledge the possibility, however remote, of a magazine-related malfunction. I carry 2 spare mags even with low cap guns like my G43, and I carry 2 speedloaders or speedstrips with a revolver.

I’ve been doing this long enough that it’s an ingrained habit now, so I don’t even have to think about it when I’m getting ready to go out. And certainly, at least in the way that carrying a handgun fits into my lifestyle, carrying the extra mags does no harm.