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by flechero
Thu May 31, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

Liberty wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:45 am I would never trust a 1911 because of reliability issues with defensive ammo
Isn't that a bit broad? Since there have been over 100 manufacturers and 1000's of models in the last 100+ years, ruling out an entire class of pistol, and it's variants. (many of which are as reliable as any "modern" design) Using that logic in plastic guns that have ever choked, would nearly eliminate any choice left.

I agree that reliability is key, but also realize that there is a difference between Baer, Wilson, STI,etc and ATI,Jennings, etc. About like comparing a 2018 Rolls Royce to a 74' pinto. :lol:
by flechero
Wed May 30, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

cyphertext wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 7:50 pm It isn't only the P365... The P320 had issues...
I don't consider the 320 a flop, regardless of the bad press. Lots of guns aren't certified drop safe, although it did pass all the prescribed tests to earn such a label. And now it's altered/upgraded to be "completely drop safe." So it shoots great, has a nicer trigger than the plastic competition, modular grip bodies and fits most hands and hasn't had any mag, feed or frame issues (like several others) and you think it's a flop? That's a bit too critical, IMO. :tiphat:



Not to re-open that can O' worms but I wonder how many other "drop safe" guns have since been revisited with a hammer? :smash:
by flechero
Thu May 03, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

Abraham wrote:flechero,

Yes, that's the video I've been referencing.

And, they shoot other brand and not just Magtech, Blazer 124 gr being one.

I don't have time to re-watch the whole thing, but they may have shot some other brands of ammo too.
I stand corrected... I must have bugged out after watching them repeatedly stuff mag after mag of bad ammo in it. :oops: I rewatched part of it and you were right... and at the 8:40 mark he said 350 rounds of Blazer and no reliability problems... with an already filthy gun. That would definitely suggest that the original magtech ammo was the issue. (as they said it was over 50% fail rate)

Either way, anyone that would continue to run that ammo without stopping to measure it or otherwise try to troubleshoot it, isn't someone I would trust to certify my guns. He's lucky he didn't stick one in the barrel and then blow it up!

So having said all that, I would still buy one and run it myself.
by flechero
Thu May 03, 2018 9:26 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

Abraham wrote:Now, I'll have to re-visit the YT video, but I'm (almost) positive they DID use different brands of ammo not just one.
Are we talking about the same one? The video I mentioned is here:

https://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=91374
by flechero
Thu May 03, 2018 9:23 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

MaduroBU wrote:I have not been impressed by Sig of late. It used to be the tool of professionals, but now it seems that they surrendered that in favor of marketing to portray that image.

The P365 looks perfect on paper, but I am suspicious of it. With a G43, I can print two 8" circles at 10 yards...one center mass and one low left when I start flinching. And that's with cheapo 115 grain blasting ammo. I can chew the middle out of a target at 25 yards with a 357 Sig which makes 2.5x the muzzle energy from a 40 oz all stainless pistol, so it's not exactly recoil sensitivity. I think that polymer frame pistols produce very snappy recoil which makes it very tough for me to get back on targey quickly.

The P365 seems to be better than my P232 stainless in every way....until I start shooting it. I get that my comments are far from universally applicable, but I feel that I cannot be the only person who feels that way.
Your comments are common of many people shooting a lightweight, small framed pistol. But I would bet my wallet that the gun wasn't the difference... same thing would happen with a 365 as a CM9, PF9, LC9, G43, etc.

I can shoot PF9's and LC9 decently, but I have had them for years and have a lot of trigger time on them. Even still, I shoot them a little slower than I can a full size gun, or even a 4" officers framed 1911. That's the trade off in concealed carry, for those of us that have to conceal. The small guns are easier to carry, but harder to shoot. Compound that with most guys take the full size gun to the range and dial in with that and only occasionally shoot the little carry gun. I think people should start and finish each range session with the carry gun.

I'd love a small, all steel gun with a good trigger... but there are VERY few of those to be had and they are expensive. I can carry extra weight better than I can conceal a larger gun.
by flechero
Wed May 02, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

Abraham wrote:flechero,

Thanks, I'm very interested in this gun, but it'll take a year before I buy one, unless: I see lots and lots good reports. Let others be beta testers. Even after that time, you can still find guns that aren't reliable, but after a year or so of being on the market, if flaws show up and Sig fixes them before they're for sale, great. I just don't want to go through the returning of a gun to the factory so it'll work properly.

I watched a YT video regarding the Sig 365 and man it did NOT like the 115 grain round nose FMJ's.

How so: It often wouldn't go into all the way into battery.

The video was pooh poohed on a Sig forum, but I saw it over and over not go into battery.

How do you argue with that?

The Sig guys knocked the video from a number of perspectives, one being the shooters used cheap ammo.

Please, most of us don't use premium, that is to say high dollar ammo for range practice.

The Sig guys are diehard fans and will not hear of one of their precious guns being criticized...
I'm also interested in the little Sig. It would replace my current single stack 9's if it works. I saw the video you are referencing... there was a thread on it. I (and may others) think it was an ammo problem- out of spec ammo. (cheap, yes but that wasn't the issue. I believe it was a few thousandths long) They never tested another round, never measured a round or did anything but keep stuffing mags into it. Taking a known failure and repeating it for the camera. They should have just hit a 320 with a hammer and made it drop fire! :lol:

My post following the video you referenced:
flechero wrote:My experience with magtech was bad... so bad that I wouldn't shoot it again if it were given to me. All those FTRB could have been a simple OAL issue with the ammo.

It would have been nice to see them try it with different ammo... or at least mix in a box of anything else since the one guy said it was 50% failure. The fact that they didn't change ammo makes their test a waste of time and money for me. It only proves that the gun won't run with that variety of magtech ammo.
My local academy has had and sold 7 of them already but not when I have been there! :cryin I really want to hold one and see if it fits my hand comfortably. (that's top of my list for the NRA convention)

I'll run it hard if I buy one, knowing the reviews have been good but not universal.
by flechero
Wed May 02, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Do Own A Sig 365?
Replies: 74
Views: 29505

Re: Do Own A Sig 365?

Timely... Not to say the 365 does or doesn't prefer any specific ammo but I got an email a few minutes ago with this link.,...

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/catalogs ... mm+115+365

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