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by txmatt
Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:48 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: pro gun political question
Replies: 42
Views: 3632

Re: pro gun political question

thejtrain wrote: Interesting perspective - I wasn't aware of any active or proposed federal legislation in that regard. The part that I could see causing some trouble is in the process to decide, at the federal level, which permits/certificates/licenses issued by states get protected by the full faith & credit clause and which do not (e.g., if the full faith & credit clause applies to CCWs why wouldn't it apply to marriages? Equal protection and all that). Admittedly I have not thought through that whole thing all the way, but that's beside the point of this quote.

What's interesting is the differences between a pro-liberty legislator and an anti-liberty legislator.
Status Quo: CCW issued by State A is not recognized by State B, and license holders from State A MAY NOT carry legally in State B
Pro-liberty: State A's government trusts its citizens to carry, let's use that as a template to legalize carry (by license holders) everywhere.
Anti-liberty: State B's government doesn't trust its citizens to carry, let's use that as a template to actively outlaw carry everywhere.

JT
The full faith and credit clause does, in fact, apply to marriages in gereneral and as such there has been quite a controversy regarding whether this must be extended to non traditional marriages that are not recognized by most states. IMHO, and IANAL, the defense of marriage act signed by Bill in 96 is blatantly unconstitutional as it was an attempt at a legislative means to bypass part of the constitution. I have my own ideas how to fix this dilemma, but they are far beyond the scope of this thread.

While I still think the legislation I referenced was the source of the quote, it seems like he does want to ban CCW nationwide: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.gun.html

Barring a viable third part candidate (yeah, right) this is not going to be a good election for the 2A.
by txmatt
Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:56 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: pro gun political question
Replies: 42
Views: 3632

Re: pro gun political question

thejtrain wrote:
Two questions:
1) How the heck does Texas allowing CCW endanger the safety of people living in Illinois? Does he think people who get CHLs are too stupid to realize that they're only good in that state and whatever state, by law, recognizes it through reciprocity? Absolutely ridiculous.

JT

I think that quote was in reference to legislation (supported by if not sponsored by Ron Paul) that would require states to recognize CCW permits issued by other states, as I believe they should under the full faith and credit clause. I don't think it is ridiculous for a person to expect that, in principle, other states should, by our constitution, recognize a CCW permit issued by another state.

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