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I am sure that there are Commanders at many levels assessing what happened at Ft Hood, and looking to make changes in an attempt to prevent it or something like it from happening again. We (the Amy) have always re-acted this way in the past, so I have no reason to believe that they aren't actively researching a solution. Having retired from the Army AND having had a CHL while on active duty, I can see both sides. As I see it there will continue to be sacrifices, particularly, in regards to the carrying of POWs by CHLs while on post.

I think their only viable solution for prevention is to arm certain individuals. Possibly allowing Cdr's, CSM's, 1SG's maybe even Platoon Sergeants/Leaders to carry their assigned weapon during the duty day while in Garrison AND they would also need to at least consider the MSG's and SGM's for the staff side.

OR continue to plus up (even further) the ever growing number of DoD Civilian Police on bases. This would be the more costly measure.

In regards to military CHL holders...not all leaders will qualify for a CHL, based upon one thing or another however some will. As a result, that could mean there are not enough CHL holders at assigned levels for there to be a uniform measure of security. Which leads me to believe that it would need to be their assigned weapon.

Just my thoughts. YMMV. IANAL.

Lodge2004 wrote:

frazzled wrote:Can someone with more expertise help me out here.
Am I correct in that she was a civilian police officer?
This was on the base itself correct?
If so 1. where were the MPs shooting at the guy? 2. How did she get on the base? I am not understanding how this works.

DOD police. Lot's of MP's are deployed overseas so the military tends to rely on civil service and contractors to provide security at military installations at home.

tfrazier wrote:From an article on the Fox News web site today:

The 21-year-old Fort Worth native quickly grabbed the civilian worker who'd been helping with his paperwork and forced her under the desk. He lay low for several minutes, waiting for the shooter to run out of ammunition and wishing he, too, had a gun.

It's just plain criminal for a United States soldier to be lying under a desk in a combat situation without a gun. I don't care if he's in Iraq, Afghanistan, Texas, or on Mars. He and all his fellow troops should have been allowed to tote. We trust them with guns everywhere in the world except their own home...where those who obey orders and live within the confines of the law are at the mercy of those who do not.

Shameful.

Agree, whole-heartedly!

Our thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected by today's shootings on Fort Hood. What has happened to so many innocent people is truly a tragedy. Brenda and I drove up to Fort Hood today. We were on post at the time of the incident, but had no idea what was going on at the time. We watched and listened to the many many sirens from the emergency vehicles from the Main Post Exchange at 1:45PM as we loaded our packages into the vehicles. It wasn't until we got back home that we heard the terrible news. We were fortunate to not be in harms way and were able to get home safely.