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CompVest, I've never liked the "gun will be used against you" argument as I've never read a single news story where that happened. Always just seemed to be largely hypothetical fear mongering to me. Since you say you've studied this I was wondering, do you have any links to resources documenting the frequency of how often that actually occurs?

txinvestigator wrote: What has that to do with criminals breaking into homes and attacking random women?

It has to do with the fact that criminals are still people as well. While we've all seen and read the Dumbest Criminal shows and stories, for the most part their targets are chosen in a cost/benefit thought process. They will look for the easiest targets. Knowing there is this hypothetical 50/50 chance of their target fighting back with a gun is what will dissuade them from attacking a woman to begin with.

Of course this theory is open to debate but that's what it has to do w/ my previous statement.

Likewise if we lived in a society where it was as common for everyone to start carrying when you're 18, 21 or whatever as it is to start driving when you're 16 I believe there would be a lot less crimes committed.

txinvestigator wrote:

atxgun wrote:I'm reminded of Penn & Teller's BullEDIT episode on gun control "What if every woman was issued a pistol. They didn't have to carry them, so lets say only half would. Do you think someone's going to try and rape a woman when there's a 50/50 chance she has a gun?"

The chance is that now. It would not change a thing about attempts, only the potential outcome.

Well the point they were putting forward is that it very much was about reducing the number of attempts. While I generally hate using Nazi comparisons in any argument, keep in mind they never invaded Switzerland b/c they knew the populous was armed to the teeth.

Venus Pax wrote:

CompVest wrote:What an awsome message. I am so glad she is being vocal about what she is doing to prevent being a victim again. I pray that other women will hear her.

It is just too bad that it takes such a horrible thing happening to get women to wake up.

I've noticed this as well, and I'm very saddened by it. I hate that she didn't have a gun and the knowledge of it's use when he attacked the first time. It might have prevented not only her rape, but the rape of many other women.

We can only hope that her unfortunate encounter and telling of the story will be the catalyst to prevent future rapes.

I'm reminded of Penn & Teller's BullEDIT episode on gun control "What if every woman was issued a pistol. They didn't have to carry them, so lets say only half would. Do you think someone's going to try and rape a woman when there's a 50/50 chance she has a gun?"

I would provide links to youtube videos for anyone that hasn't seen that episode but it looks like they took them down.