Good luck with your LTC. If you received a pardon from the Governor you sure did it the right way. I'm assuming President Obama is not handing out full Federal pardons that restore gun rights. President G.W. Bush did a few, so maybe he is.
Anyway, should you get a rejection from RSD, you should have an easy win on appeal. Also, make sure that expungement gets the conviction cleared out of as many govt. databases as possible.
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- Thu May 12, 2016 2:17 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Students’ Criminal Background Check
- Replies: 37
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- Thu May 12, 2016 1:35 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Students’ Criminal Background Check
- Replies: 37
- Views: 9089
Re: Students’ Criminal Background Check
Part of the problem here is States allowing private individuals access to records of arrests, especially for misdemeanors. Especially since these records are (apparently) riddled with incorrect and incomplete information.
Take employment or tenant screening background checks for instance. I have no problem with private entities doing them, but why is the State making information available about crimes that were alleged, but later disproven, dismissed, acquitted, etc. OK maybe if the charges are pending (under indictment) for felonies.
When I see a private employment questionnaire that says "Have you ever been arrested?", my thought is "None of your business." Ask me if I was convicted, or find out yourself. Maybe police actively investigating a crime could use this information, but I suspect that in most actual trials, previous acquittals are suppressed unless there is some compelling reason. For every OJ Simpson there's probably 10,000 Ryan's who got jammed up on bull charges. Or maybe even OJ's really innocent (of murder).
Anyway, since arrests are (usually) matters of public record, a private company could compile them and make them available. But why are (many) states assisting in this process by making the records available to private entities? Especially given the incompleteness and inaccuracy issues.
This and EVERYTHING seems to be an arrestable offense lately. So back to the original topic. If you were to run a background check on someone taking a LTC class, or other training class, what would you be looking for? Someone who is a prohibited person? Only if you're a FFL selling them a gun. Then you run the NICS check. Otherwise let DPS figure it out before they issue a LTC.
Take employment or tenant screening background checks for instance. I have no problem with private entities doing them, but why is the State making information available about crimes that were alleged, but later disproven, dismissed, acquitted, etc. OK maybe if the charges are pending (under indictment) for felonies.
When I see a private employment questionnaire that says "Have you ever been arrested?", my thought is "None of your business." Ask me if I was convicted, or find out yourself. Maybe police actively investigating a crime could use this information, but I suspect that in most actual trials, previous acquittals are suppressed unless there is some compelling reason. For every OJ Simpson there's probably 10,000 Ryan's who got jammed up on bull charges. Or maybe even OJ's really innocent (of murder).

Anyway, since arrests are (usually) matters of public record, a private company could compile them and make them available. But why are (many) states assisting in this process by making the records available to private entities? Especially given the incompleteness and inaccuracy issues.
This and EVERYTHING seems to be an arrestable offense lately. So back to the original topic. If you were to run a background check on someone taking a LTC class, or other training class, what would you be looking for? Someone who is a prohibited person? Only if you're a FFL selling them a gun. Then you run the NICS check. Otherwise let DPS figure it out before they issue a LTC.
- Wed May 11, 2016 5:37 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Students’ Criminal Background Check
- Replies: 37
- Views: 9089
Re: Students’ Criminal Background Check
When CO legalized marijuana, they put in a section that employers could still test for it and refuse to hire based on results without running afoul of discrimination rules.sjfcontrol wrote:Well now that raises an interesting question...ScottDLS wrote:thenick_ttu wrote:I find this very hard to believe. I worked in many restaurants during high school and college (including several Chili's) and not a single one ever drug tested.Flightmare wrote: I remember a co-worker who is based in Canon City, CO tell me that they had trouble opening the Chili's in town. They had trouble finding enough staff that could pass a drug test. It seems personal responsibility and common sense are so rare these days, they should be considered a super power.
In Colorado...nowadays? Drug test? Good luck...
If smoking pot is legal, wouldn't refusing to hire somebody because a drug test was posititive for marijuana be a violation of the applicant's civil rights?
- Wed May 11, 2016 4:02 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Students’ Criminal Background Check
- Replies: 37
- Views: 9089
Re: Students’ Criminal Background Check
thenick_ttu wrote:I find this very hard to believe. I worked in many restaurants during high school and college (including several Chili's) and not a single one ever drug tested.Flightmare wrote: I remember a co-worker who is based in Canon City, CO tell me that they had trouble opening the Chili's in town. They had trouble finding enough staff that could pass a drug test. It seems personal responsibility and common sense are so rare these days, they should be considered a super power.
In Colorado...nowadays? Drug test? Good luck...
