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by ScottDLS
Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:40 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Quick check - hospital
Replies: 30
Views: 6125

Re: Quick check - hospital

I assume the "point" is a clearly bogus sign, referencing the wrong law should make you investigate further vs. ignoring it. Even if you already know there is no legal reason to exclude you.

Who knows? The VA may be posting invalid Texas state law signs at all their US hospitals, just to let you know that they are Federal property. :lol:
by ScottDLS
Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:33 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Quick check - hospital
Replies: 30
Views: 6125

Re: Quick check - hospital

Solaris wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
What about a 30.05 sign makes it more likely that a hospital is a school?

A school doesn't have to post a sign anyway
You are missing the point.

They posted a sign saying carrying was illegal. You now have a choice, ignore it (as notRPB said) and face arrest as it might really be illegal to carry there unknown to you, or investigate further to make sure the sign is bogus and it is OK to carry there. Free country, you get to choose, and own your action.

Like I said, after the Dallas Zoo, I am ever more careful about ignoring signs. YMMV.
The sign is factually incorrect as it states that carrying is 30.05 criminal trespass, which it is not. That would make me less likely to think that it was a school...or a racetrack, or place of execution.

As for the Dallas Zoo, prior to their claiming they were an amusement park, you would have easily beaten the rap. Now the AG says he believes they are an amusement park...ultimately it will have to be decided in court. In the meantime if you were to CC, it would be very unlikely that you would be the test case.
by ScottDLS
Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Quick check - hospital
Replies: 30
Views: 6125

Re: Quick check - hospital

Solaris wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
Solaris wrote:
NotRPB wrote: Here's a 30.05 sign I'd ignore with my handgun and license, but probably would apply to a rifle

Why would you ignore it? It might be a factual sign and carrying a firearm might be illegal. You need to know what is going on at that place before you decide if you can ignore it or not.
Because you couldn't be prosecuted for carrying at a hospital unless they are posted w/ 30.06 compliant sign.
Actually as txpilot pointed out on previous page, you could be prosecuted, which is my point. it might very well be Illegal to carry a firearm there.

For decades I thought the 30.06 signs at the Dallas Zoo could be safely ignored, little did I know I was wrong. Before you pass a warning sign (even if it improperly quotes the law), you better be certain you know what the place is.
What about a 30.05 sign makes it more likely that a hospital is a school?

A school doesn't have to post a sign anyway, and a VA hospital has to post a 18 USC 930 compliant sign to enforce the firearms prohibition. So you couldn't be prosecuted for carrying at a hospital, unless they were posted 30.06. You could get prosecuted for carrying at a school with or without any sign.
by ScottDLS
Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:35 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Quick check - hospital
Replies: 30
Views: 6125

Re: Quick check - hospital

Solaris wrote:
NotRPB wrote: Here's a 30.05 sign I'd ignore with my handgun and license, but probably would apply to a rifle

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Why would you ignore it? It might be a factual sign and carrying a firearm might be illegal. You need to know what is going on at that place before you decide if you can ignore it or not.
Because you couldn't be prosecuted for carrying at a hospital unless they are posted w/ 30.06 compliant sign. This sign tells me nothing. Am I supposed to assume that it means the hospital is a school or a professional football game is going on?

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