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Charlies.Contingency wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:So it is illegal for a bar or a business that has a liquor license, to have a shotgun somewhere? From my understanding, unlicensed carrying of a weapon, but one would naturally believe that the business owner/manager, or other authorized personnel could have in their possession whatever they wished to do. Does this mean a property owner has lost rights in this case?

No...because this is the current rule:

On-Premise Possession of Firearms. Firearms may be possessed on premises licensed for on-premise consumption if:
(1) the firearm is in the possession of the permittee/licensee; or

Okay, I thought that something along those lines was in there. Mind noting what section you snipped that from?

Sec. 11.61. CANCELLATION OR SUSPENSION OF PERMIT. (a) As used in Subsection (b) of this section, the word "permittee" also includes each member of a partnership or association and, with respect to a corporation, each officer and the owner or owners of a majority of the corporate stock. This section shall not be construed as prohibiting anything permitted under Section 22.06, 24.05, or 102.05 of this code.
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(e) Except as provided by Subsection (f) or (i), the commission or administrator shall cancel an original or renewal permit if it is found, after notice and hearing, that the permittee knowingly allowed a person to possess a firearm in a building on the licensed premises. This subsection does not apply to a person:
(1) who holds a security officer commission issued under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, if:
(A) the person is engaged in the performance of the person's duties as a security officer;
(B) the person is wearing a distinctive uniform; and
(C) the weapon is in plain view;
(2) who is a peace officer;
(3) who is a permittee or an employee of a permittee if the person is supervising the operation of the premises; or
(4) who possesses a concealed handgun the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, unless the person is on the premises of a business described by Section 46.035(b)(1), Penal Code.
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LSUTiger wrote:I'm confused.

So if I go to Olive Garden, because it's not posted 51% or 30.06 I can conceal carry in the bar area and the normal dining areas.

I could carry a long gun in the normal dining areas but not the bar area or I can't carry in the entire premises at all because it has a bar?

I need to know quick so I can plan what I'm gonna do for lunch today!

Now if I go to a hotel, that has a bar, can I bring my long gun to my room?

Charlies.Contingency wrote:So it is illegal for a bar or a business that has a liquor license, to have a shotgun somewhere? From my understanding, unlicensed carrying of a weapon, but one would naturally believe that the business owner/manager, or other authorized personnel could have in their possession whatever they wished to do. Does this mean a property owner has lost rights in this case?

On-Premise Possession of Firearms. Firearms may be possessed on premises licensed for on-premise consumption if:
(1) the firearm is in the possession of the permittee/licensee; or

E.Marquez wrote:"The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) issued a REMINDER to all those who hold a Liquor License that businesses licensed to sell or serve alcoholic beverages are prohibited by state law from allowing rifles or shotguns in the building.

Specifically, Section 11.61(e) of the Alcoholic Beverage Code says that TABC shall, after the opportunity for a hearing, cancel a permit if the permittee knowingly allowed a person to possess a firearm in a building on the licensed premises. Some exceptions include licensed concealed handguns and peace officers."

So am I the only one that did not know this?

Personally I don't see it as effecting me as I cant see a time or place where I would likely run into the issue / decision point.
That is beside the point of ..... WHAT? and Why? How did I become a person needing legal restaurant because I stopped at the local 7 Eleven for ice and gatorade on the way to my deer lease, local outdoor range, ect?

Again, I have no idea why I would want to bring in my shotgun or rifle...Perhaps a concern the shady dude on the corner in the shadows checking car door handles and i don't want my rifle or shotgun stolen..

But what about the hotel I want to get a room in...it has a bar, it has a liquor license... So no rifle in the building?