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by ScottDLS
Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:44 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10177

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

LaUser wrote:
TVGuy wrote:Negative, no handling skills were taught.

I know I'm going to get hardcore flamed on this, but I don't think there is nearly enough training. Yes, it is your right to carry. The safety and proficiency levels of MANY people with CHLs is extremely low.

I've been to renewal classes (when that was still around) that multiple people had not fired their weapon since the last CHL proficiency test. That's completely irresponsible. I hate to say it, but I think there are more of those than people who go out even every six months...which is still not enough.
I agree. There is not enough training. What we currently have is a joke. There should be more classroom time, safety handling training and yearly range qualification.

Years ago on another forum, someone was complaining because he could not carry like LEO's do. Among other things, like extensive training and retraining, they are required to qualify at the range yearly, at least where I come from. I think if you want to carry a pistol, you have to show proficiency on a yearly basis. LEOSA requires this.
I don't. Even the TCLEOSE training is a joke. I have yet to see the training requirement in the 2nd amendment. How come I can buy and carry an AR15 at 18 without any required training? Shouldn't we require everyone buying a gun to take training in that specific firearm and then register the gun to their license so we know they are proficient? That way they (presumably) wouldn't sweep me/us the range.

I'm special, I'm military trained in M14 and M16 rifle, .45 pistol, and M60 LMG. I really don't know what all these 22 year old college girl wannabe SEAL/SWAT people are doing with CHL's. Only highly trained tacticool professionals like me should have a CHL. I also think there should be a fitness test, 20 pull ups, 80 situps (in 2min), and run 3 miles in 22 min.
by ScottDLS
Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10177

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

Honestly guys...it's not that hard. I taught myself at 18 rifle and pistol at 20. Later I was in the military and got basic pistol, automatic rifle, and light MG training. It wasn't that hard other than to keep the gunny from ruining my hearing by screaming in my ear that my M-16 bolt was dirty.

Later I became a NRA Basic Pistol instructor. The training mainly emphasized what most of us know by observation/common sense. As R. Lee Ermey says, "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch, till you're ready to shoot".

The average person that goes to the trouble of buying a handgun and getting a CHL would be able to use it in the vast majority of situations they are likely to face. I don't propose a test for exercising your 2nd amendment rights any more than I propose a literacy test to exercise your right to vote... Why do I need a writ from "His Lordship on High the Governor of my Colony" to own a musket? He already puts a tax on my tea.

I don't think you ought to have to run through the Infantry Basic Course to buy an AR15 either (or an M16 for that matter). :patriot:

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