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by ScottDLS
Thu May 27, 2021 11:33 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Permitless Carry in Texas
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Re: Permitless Carry in Texas

Papa_Tiger wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:11 am
carlson1 wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 11:52 pm I hope the LTC never go away. There are too many States we go to that I would not be able to carry without a LTC.

It is going to be interesting to see how many legal signs go up for a while to keep firearms out of business’. When open carried passed we seen a lot of 30.06 signs along with 30.07 go up. After a while the 30.06 signs came down. We shall see.

I still would like to know what the amendments are. Will everyone who OC be stopped and ask for ID?
Enrolled version can be found here:
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 01927F.htm

This is the final, cleaned up version of the conference committee report that is going to the governor.

The Dutton amendment that codified the 4th amendment relating to firearms (cannot be stopped and asked for ID ONLY because a firearm is visible) was removed from the final version of the bill at the request of Law Enforcement. Schwertner swore up and down during his closing that the 4th Amendment still protects people, and that absent reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime was committed, is about to be committed, or is being committed (Terry stop threshold), citizens shouldn't be harassed by police officers just for carrying.

Open carry wound up being a big nothing-burger as far as that goes, but we'll see what happens with unlicensed carry.
Schwertner swore up and down during his closing that the 4th Amendment still protects people, and that absent reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime was committed, is about to be committed, or is being committed (Terry stop threshold), citizens shouldn't be harassed by police officers just for carrying.
He's right, but it would be much better to have codified in state law, so that any challenge to an unconstitutional detention doesn't have to rely on federal constitutional precedent.

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