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On my M&P I can use either slingshot or over the top. On my CZ P01 I have to use slingshot because the slide is low profile and rides on the inside of the frame rails and just doesn't give enough surface area (going over the top I tend to grab the frame). I used to use the slide stop but quit doing that after practice and stress scenarios proved it a lesser option in stressful situations. I used to train for IDPA until it became more game-like instead of defensive skills training. I now want to be sure muscle memory is 90% grooved for defensive scenarios.