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by apostate
Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My firm's policy on concealed carry
Replies: 24
Views: 2882

Re: My firm's policy on concealed carry

C-dub wrote:I think #4 is no because if they cannot prohibit me from keeping it in my vehicle in the company parking lot then how could they elsewhere?
See Oldgringo's post above. ;-)

From a practical standpoint, how would they know? The same could be said for #7. But for gedankenexperiment purposes...
by apostate
Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My firm's policy on concealed carry
Replies: 24
Views: 2882

Re: My firm's policy on concealed carry

IMHO

1. Employer can prohibit employee from carrying in their building. (yes) (yes)
1a. Employer can prohibit employee from carrying outside their car in the parking lot, on the grounds and on other company real property. ( ) (yes)
2. Employer can prohibit employee from keeping gun in locked private vehicle in employer parking lot. (no) (no, except for exceptions in the law, such as school districts and chemical plants)
3. Employer can prohibit employee from carrying gun in vehicle owned or leased by employer anywhere. (yes) (yes)
4. Employer can prohibit employee from keeping gun in locked private vehicle anywhere while on company business. (no) (maybe - SB 321 is silent on the subject of roads and other non-parking areas)
5. Client can prohibit law firm's employee from keeping gun in locked private vehicle in client's parking lot. (yes maybe) (maybe - SB 321 is silent on parking areas the employer doesn't provide for the employee)
6. Client can prohibit law firm's employee from carrying gun on client premises. (yes) (yes)
7. Employer can prohibit employee from carrying outside their car while on company business. ( ) (yes)

Accounting firms too. ;-)
by apostate
Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My firm's policy on concealed carry
Replies: 24
Views: 2882

Re: My firm's policy on concealed carry

C-dub wrote:I don't get it. You're making my point for me. His employer can only prohibit him from carrying inside their building. They cannot prohibit him from carrying elsewhere.
I already quoted what I consider the relevant part of the law, so all I can say now is we must be interpreting that quoted text very differently.
by apostate
Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My firm's policy on concealed carry
Replies: 24
Views: 2882

Re: My firm's policy on concealed carry

C-dub wrote:
apostate wrote:
C-dub wrote:I think the client could prohibit someone like this, but my direct employer cannot prohibit me from carrying on someone else's property, right?
It's not meaningful 30.06 notice, but I believe they can fire you (or take other disciplinary action) for carrying a gun on the job, except within the narrowly defined parameters of the new parking lot law. Consider alcohol. It's legal (for most of us) to have a beer, but I'm pretty sure an employer can fire an employee for drinking on the job, even if they're at a client site.
I don't know. There isn't a state law that says they cannot have a policy against drinking on the job. The new law regarding guns says that they can still have a policy that we cannot carry in their building, but everywhere else is okay unless it is a company owned or leased vehicle.
What new law says that? SB 321 only says an "employer may not prohibit an employee [...] from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees." It says nothing about client premises (or client parking lots, for that matter.)

I wish it were different. Heck, I wish they passed campus carry. But it is what it is, until we throw the rascals out.
by apostate
Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:34 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My firm's policy on concealed carry
Replies: 24
Views: 2882

Re: My firm's policy on concealed carry

C-dub wrote:I think the client could prohibit someone like this, but my direct employer cannot prohibit me from carrying on someone else's property, right?
It's not meaningful 30.06 notice, but I believe they can fire you (or take other disciplinary action) for carrying a gun on the job, except within the narrowly defined parameters of the new parking lot law. Consider alcohol. It's legal (for most of us) to have a beer, but I'm pretty sure an employer can fire an employee for drinking on the job, even if they're at a client site.

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