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The Annoyed Man wrote:

Crash wrote:

vjallen75 wrote:

Crash wrote:Thanks to all for your input--I appreciate it. I will have the bore slugged, try some more types of ammo, and shoot it off a rest (which will have to be at 25 yards at our range) and see what happens. And yes, reliability trumps pinpoint accuracy every time and that's what I really like about the gun.

Cheers,

Crash

Crash,

I have the same firearm and have the same "issue." The more I use it the better I know I will become.

I am curious as to how you like the Hornady 124 gr, I bought some a while ago but have yet to test it at the range.

vjallen75,

Actually, the Hornady was the most accurate of the group. And, as I stated, I've had no reliability problems with any ammo, so now I'm trying to choose a carry ammo based on accuracy.

Crash

I would give some consideration to a bullet's terminal ballistics performance too. Hypothetically speaking, if I were getting 3" groups from FMJ and 4" groups from Federal HST, I'd carry the HST.

vjallen75,

From the research I've done on shots fired into 10% ballistic gelatin, I believe the best terminal ballistics are from Gold Dot 124 gr HP +Ps, Federal HSTs in 124 gr, Hornady 124 gr XTPs, Winchester Defend 147 gr HP, and Corbon DPX. I don't have any of the Winchester Defends or Corbon DPXs right now, but as soon as I get some I will try them. Whichever of these gives me the best accuracy will be my carry load. I would really like to have a group no bigger than 4" shooting unsupported (not off a rest) at 15 yards shooting quick fire (just time enough to come down out of recoil and get the sights aligned again).

Thanks for your help,

Crash

vjallen75 wrote:

Crash wrote:Thanks to all for your input--I appreciate it. I will have the bore slugged, try some more types of ammo, and shoot it off a rest (which will have to be at 25 yards at our range) and see what happens. And yes, reliability trumps pinpoint accuracy every time and that's what I really like about the gun.

Cheers,

Crash

Crash,

I have the same firearm and have the same "issue." The more I use it the better I know I will become.

I am curious as to how you like the Hornady 124 gr, I bought some a while ago but have yet to test it at the range.

vjallen75,

Actually, the Hornady was the most accurate of the group. And, as I stated, I've had no reliability problems with any ammo, so now I'm trying to choose a carry ammo based on accuracy.

Crash

Thanks to all for your input--I appreciate it. I will have the bore slugged, try some more types of ammo, and shoot it off a rest (which will have to be at 25 yards at our range) and see what happens. And yes, reliability trumps pinpoint accuracy every time and that's what I really like about the gun.

Cheers,

Crash

I know that the answer to this is probably subjective, i.e., "defense-accurate" is whatever the individual considers it to be, but I'd like to get some opinions, anyway. The reason I'm asking is that I have an FNS-9 that fits me just fine, has fired 550 rounds with 8 different types of ammo (ball and HP) mixed in 3 different magazines with nary a failure, but I can't get it to shoot better than about a 5" group, off-hand, in timed fire, at 15 yards. That shooting was with Fed HST 124 gr HP (non-+P), Speer GD 124 gr HP (+P), Hornady 124 gr XTP HP (non+P), and Winchester SXZ 115 GR HP (non+P). I wouldn't claim to be the best shot in the world, but I've shot better than that with several other handguns, so I know it can't all be me. I'm going to try several more types of ammo to see if it will do better with another type, but I would like to know what other folks think is acceptable "defense-accuracy" off-hand, timed fire, at 15 yards.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Crash