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by Douva
Fri May 22, 2009 2:14 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

I kept checking on the streaming video from the House and couldn't figure out why they were still on the Local and Consent calendar, which is usually knocked out in the first hour or so of each day.

Then I got a call from a friend who's down at the Capitol doing some lobbying. He told me what's going on. Here is the Associated Press report, for those of you who haven't heard.
Democrats use 'chubbing' stalling strategy

By KELLEY SHANNON Associated Press Writer © 2009 The Associated Press

May 22, 2009, 1:11PM

AUSTIN, Texas — Talkative House Democrats used stalling tactics Friday to prevent passage of a voter identification bill they oppose that's scheduled for debate this weekend.

Democrats — who'd warned they would put up a fight to stop the voter ID measure — began talking at length on non-controversial legislation to use up the clock. The Legislature adjourns June 1, and a number of bill passage deadlines are arriving in the next few days.

The Senate already passed a Republican-pushed bill requiring voters to show a photo ID or two non-photo ID alternatives when they cast a ballot. Democrats say that would prevent people without those forms of identification from voting and suppress turnout. If Democrats are going to stop the legislation, it will have to be in the House, where the chamber is almost evenly divided by party.

Veteran Rep. Delwin Jones, R-Lubbock, said Democratic opponents of the voter ID bill were trying to pressure fellow lawmakers to negotiate the legislation, in turn threatening scores of unrelated bills. The delay tactic, using the rules to eat up time, is known as "chubbing."

"In lieu of the filibuster, the House chubs," Jones said. "It keeps a lot of bills from being considered, which puts a lot of pressure on the members who have bills they want to pass."

The House gaveled into session 30 minutes late Friday. Then, after the usual prayer, pledge and welcoming remarks, legislators started in on a long "local and consent" agenda. It's supposed to be a non-controversial agenda of bills that usually breezes along.

But Democrats made it clear they planned to ask lots of questions on those bills and use up all the time permitted — 10 minutes per bill — to slow down the House's work pace.

One Democratic lawmaker during his questioning about a proposed municipal utility district in Waller County brought up a House leadership scandal from the 1970s. Another, questioning a Republican doctor representatives on his legislation, asked about the best remedies for nasal congestion.

Rep. Sid Miller, R-Stephenville, raised a technical point to try to prevent the whole local and consent agenda from being considered so that the House could return to major pending bills, like changes to the top 10 percent college admissions law and, potentially, voter ID, slated for Saturday. He later temporarily withdrew that technical challenge.

"Hopefully we can get back to the people's business and see less chubbing," Miller pleaded, to no avail.

Republicans huddled to talk strategy at the back of the House chamber and in an adjoining conference room, where former Speaker Tom Craddick joined them. The Republicans told news reporters to leave the room.

Rep. Mike "Tuffy" Hamilton, R-Mauriceville, said Republicans were taking a wait-and-see approach, for now.

Speaker Pro Tempore Craig Eiland, a Galveston Democrat, presided over the House early Friday instead of Republican Speaker Joe Straus, as is usually done for a local bill agenda. Eiland reminded lawmakers they had a full three minutes to explain their bills if they wanted to take all the available time.

At one point during the morning stalling, Democratic Rep. Mike Villarreal of San Antonio asked Eiland with a smile: "Mr. Speaker, are we going to break for lunch?"

Lawmakers were told there would be no formal lunch break; there was complimentary shrimp waiting for them in the recently remodeled legislators' lounge.

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Associated Press writers Jay Root and Jackie Stone contributed to this report.
by Douva
Wed May 20, 2009 12:08 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
Views: 34420

Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Douva wrote:They're voting now.
It passed. Time to start working the House.
by Douva
Wed May 20, 2009 12:04 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
Views: 34420

Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

They're voting now.
by Douva
Tue May 19, 2009 10:42 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
Views: 34420

Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

hirundo82 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
agbullet2k1 wrote:I don't think I've seen this addressed anywhere, but does anyone know how this would affect hospitals in partnership with universities that post 30.06? Would just the hospital part be off limits, with the classrooms being ok, or would the 30.06 no longer be valid?
I need to see how Amendment 6 is worded to be able to answer your question.

Chas.
As I read Amendment 6, it merely affirms that preexisting restrictions on where firearms may be carried apply on college campuses as well, specifically referring to the sections regarding polling places, 51% establishments, and government meetings.
(f) This section does not provide an exception to the application of or a defense to prosecution under Section 46.03(a)(2), 46.035(b)(1), or 46.035(c), Penal Code.
Also of interest may be the votes for/against the bill:
Yeas: Carona, Deuell, Eltife, Estes, Fraser, Harris, Hegar, Hinojosa, Huffman,
Jackson, Lucio, Nelson, Nichols, Patrick, Seliger, Shapiro, Uresti, Wentworth,
Whitmire, Williams.

Nays: Averitt, Davis, Duncan, Ellis, Gallegos, Shapleigh, Van de Putte, Watson,
West, Zaffirini.

Absent-excused:Ogden.

Sen. Gallegos voted for with the "Yeas" to bring the bill to the floor for consideration (giving it the 21 votes needed) but then consistently voted against tabling the amendments and ultimately against passage--I'm not sure what to make of that.
What do you notice about the A-rated Senators who didn't vote for the bill?

They all have major universities in their districts (Averitt - Baylor, Duncan - Texas Tech, Ogden - A&M, Watson - UT).

Our opposition can flap their gums all they want about the "powerful gun lobby," but in Texas, nobody wields more political power than the universities.
by Douva
Tue May 19, 2009 1:56 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
Views: 34420

Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

tornado wrote:They've moved on to other topics now that 1164 has passed 3rd reading.

What's the next step? It's listed on the bill history page as "Passed to engrossment as amended" -- can someone explain that?
It passed TO third reading (that was the second reading). The final version of the bill will now be printed, and they'll vote on it on Friday. Assuming it passes, which it should, it'll be a photo finish trying to get it scheduled for a vote in the House before the next deadline.
by Douva
Tue May 19, 2009 1:07 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
Replies: 61
Views: 34420

Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

tornado wrote:Anybody know how the 2nd reading roll call vote went? It's not on the bill history (link above) page yet.

Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).

Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
The second reading roll call vote was 21 to 9. We squeaked by. There is no way of knowing yet how each Senator voted.

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