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mrvmax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:25 am

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:08 am

mrvmax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:20 am When the constitution is changed then we can go with your suggestions, until then it violates our rights (and common sense). Your suggestions seem to show that you don’t fully understand the underlying issue and I don’t think it will make a dent in lowering gun crime. More laws will not stop the problem, we can remove every gun in our country and people will still use cutlery, vehicles, chemicals, airplanes etc.

Even if the Constitution is changed I will still have the right to keep and bear arms. God gave me that right, not man.

Well that depends on your definition of God and what God you are referring to. If you are Christian and adhere to the Bible you would be contradicting God’s law by disobeying our countries laws concerning firearms. Paul covered that in the book of Romans, I cannot speak for other religions.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:30 pm The problem is that nothing short of complete elimination of all firearms will ever be enough for the gun grabbers. The old saying of "Give them an inch and they will take a mile" applies here. As much as one would like to believe they will quit going for more, it is simply not reality. Universal background checks will do nothing to prevent the next mass shooting. Then the push will be for a complete ban on semi auto rifles. It will just continue from there until they have all our firearms.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:19 pm I understand “the shall not be infringed.”

hondo44 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:56 pm

Robert*PPS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:44 pm

hondo44 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:31 pm

MadMonkey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:22 pm I will not support ANY infringements on the 2nd.

Ever.

Every time there's a shooting and it looks like new gun laws may pass, gun owners come out of the woodwork with suggestions on how to lose more of our rights

It's real simple, if you sell a gun that is used in the commission of a crime, YOU are held responsible for that crime. That means that if you sell a gun to Jared Loughner or Adam Lanza or any of these other mental crazies that shoot up a kindergarten, YOU are the dumbass that gets charged.

No second amendment infringement, just sweet justice for putting a firearm in the hands of a madman.

This is a frightening end around. I've been wondering when this will be proposed. Not in a free society....

So you think a toddler should be able to have a gun? I'll assume no. And if a toddler get his meemaw's gun and blows his sister's face off so her brains are coming out and look like chewed up hot dogs, do you arrest the toddler? Or do you arrest the meemaw?

So either you think mentally unstable people should have guns or you think people that give them to a mental person should be punished. Or you want to give a toddler the chair. Disgusting.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:51 pm

thatguyoverthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:06 pm Interesting.

Your suggestion is interesting, but I was more referring to my response to your question.

I had typed out a long well stated (IMHO) response and reasoning and my feelings about several related subjects. But after reflecting on what I had written, and considering today's climate, let me considerably edit my response to your question.

Here is my response: no.

But it did solicit a better idea. Give private gun sellers access to the database.

Not mandatory but allow access.

I like that.

I will make that my suggestion to the politicians.

Thanks all!!