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by Grayling813
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:59 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: TX: arrested for unlawful carrying way up since constitutional carry
Replies: 8
Views: 4927

Re: TX: CONVICTED for unlawful carrying way up since constitutional carry

Grayling813 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:44 am This topic reads "arrested" while the linked article is about "convictions." Two entirely different things.

Most of the nearly 7000 convictions were likely a result of arrests in 2020 or early 2021 before "constitutional carry" went into effect in September.

And then there's this:
The “apparent rise in unlawful carrying cases across the state is alarming,” Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg wrote in an email to HuffPost.
“In Harris County, we seem to have filed more than one charge against some suspects which indicates that defendants freed on bond have been charged with the same crime more than once,” Ogg wrote.
Let's see, prosecutors are charging "suspects" with crimes, then those suspects go right back on the streets to do the same things and get arrested/charged again.

Sounds like there is a possibility that way less than 7000 individuals were convicted.
The introduction of permitless carry may not account for the shift, given that it can take several months to cycle defendants from charging to conviction. The data increase could also be due to a historic and sustained spike in gun sales that started during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Harris County, for example, showed a clear rise in unlawfully carrying a weapon dating back to 2019, with the number of people charged more than doubling in two years to 4,454.
Also - look at the convictions for "Deadly Conduct" - 2020 had 427 convictions, 2021 had 8,042 convictions. Probably a lot of the "Deadly Conduct" and "Unlawful Carrying of Weapons" were the same suspects.

What kind of events were happening in 2019 and 2020 that may have lead to increased arrests for these offenses? Protests and property destruction by certain groups like AntiFa? Look at all of the conviction increases in 2021- for example "ASSAULT CAUSES BODILY INJ" convictions: 2020: 3885; 2021: 42,227.

Based upon what I'm seeing, IMHO, the increased convictions in 2021 have NOTHING to do with Constitutional Carry.

Ponder these final numbers: 2020 Total Convictions: 26,304; 2021 Total Convictions: 124, 280. Also interesting: LTC Convictions 2020: 114 (0.4334% of all convictions); 2021: 176 (0.1416% of all convictions).

Just thought about this as well - how many arrests in 2018, 2019, 2020 may have had court dates postponed due to Covid shutdowns? That would have resulted in increased convictions in 2021 as courts opened back up and cases were finalized.
by Grayling813
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: TX: arrested for unlawful carrying way up since constitutional carry
Replies: 8
Views: 4927

Re: TX: CONVICTED for unlawful carrying way up since constitutional carry

This topic reads "arrested" while the linked article is about "convictions." Two entirely different things.

Most of the nearly 7000 convictions were likely a result of arrests in 2020 or early 2021 before "constitutional carry" went into effect in September.

And then there's this:
The “apparent rise in unlawful carrying cases across the state is alarming,” Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg wrote in an email to HuffPost.
“In Harris County, we seem to have filed more than one charge against some suspects which indicates that defendants freed on bond have been charged with the same crime more than once,” Ogg wrote.
Let's see, prosecutors are charging "suspects" with crimes, then those suspects go right back on the streets to do the same things and get arrested/charged again.

Sounds like there is a possibility that way less than 7000 individuals were convicted.
The introduction of permitless carry may not account for the shift, given that it can take several months to cycle defendants from charging to conviction. The data increase could also be due to a historic and sustained spike in gun sales that started during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Harris County, for example, showed a clear rise in unlawfully carrying a weapon dating back to 2019, with the number of people charged more than doubling in two years to 4,454.

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