I do agree with some of the things you stated, like the use of deadly force and stopping the vehicle *if* possible to deter the situation at hand. Sorry if I carry 150rnds of ammunition to help others and myself also suggest others to carry as much as they feel necessary. If I come off as bluster and bravado that no one could intimidate, cant help it "I am who I am". The plan was a auto pilot type reaction to help my poor wife who was scared for her life, so yes instantly my brain had a plan to stop the threat at hand.flintknapper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:49 pmNo, I am not suggesting that 'honking' (on your part) was in any way 'road rage'. Either you misunderstood my comments or I presented them poorly. My point was you failed to initiate action(s) sufficient to de-escalate the situation. Instead...you were formulating a plan to 'empty your magazine' into the open window of the other vehicle.narcissist wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 pmSo honking the horn is road rage to stop someone from hitting you and it wasn't even the guy I honked at? Couldn't pull over or stop since we were in heavy traffic all around us or would of pulled over, only lane open was the turning lane that he was in. Pretty sure a vehicle is considered to be a deadly weapon? Yes my plan was to empty the magazine through his open window if deemed necessary at the point of impact. To protect my wife's life/my own.flintknapper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:45 pmIn NO way were you in a position of having to use your weapon. If this went on for a "Couple of Miles" your responsibility was to STOP, pull off, disengage (de-escalate) NOT let the situation continue. Get a good description of the vehicle(s) and report to police. There were two of you in your vehicle...one of you should been on your phone to 911....NOT planning on how you were going to 'Unload your magazine" on the guy.
YOUR actions were equally 'road rage'.
Oh yeah our cell phone battery was dead so we had to stop at a Convinunce Store to borrow their Land Line. Batteries on cell phones back then didnt last to long this was in the famous Nokia Times.
I couldn't disagree anymore with you, my actions were not road rage sorry but honking at daddy doesn't count as road rage. If anyone had road rage it was the guy "trying" to intimidate someone that can not be intimidated.
I am all too familiar with 'city traffic' and while I was not present when your incident occurred I have never been in a situation (over a stretch of 2 miles) that I could not have come to a complete stop (if need be), managed a lane change, etc.
Now I understand there could be circumstances where this might not be immediately possible (to do safely). But unless the kid was willing to match/pace your speed exactly (to include a complete stop) then it sounds to me as if was nothing more than a ploy to intimidate you....and less an actual threat to your life or safety.
But...in the end, IF something had actually happened and IF you were to go to trial over your actions, please remember that your defense will hinge upon the reasonableness of your actions.
When you post on an internet site that you planned to 'unload your magazine' (and in another post that you carry 3 guns and 150 rds of ammo) and that you can NOT be 'intimidated', it comes across as bluster and bravado. No harm done here...but in court you'd be surprised how that might work against you.
So....perhaps more thought should be given to evasive vehicular maneuvers and de-escalation techniques than 'firepower'.
I pray that none of us ever face a REAL need to use deadly force, but some forethought to what it entails..both at the time and afterward would be a good thing.
I understand your post is meant to help me and try to make me realize what im saying could get me into trouble in the end. Thank you for your input/care of my saftey and im sure its also for others to read and realize somewhat the same thing.
What I think you just said about this website is it leaks info to whomever wants it? So if your not using a secure connection people please learn how to do so or everything will be used against you in court thanks to the posts you have said. I kinda had a feeling about this all along of course but good to hear it from the 'horses mouth' so to speak.
The 'real me' can probably never be truly traced luckily do to the fact of Applied Knowledge is Power. Might end up finding some poor guy that barely even knows how to use a computer?
The internet was NEVER meant to be used the way it is used today for example: money, data collection. It was meant to be Free and every program 'open source' with no rules/regulations of anykind. Privacy means the most because without it you have nothing.