Priusron, our security team does carry when they are in the church; times when people at church without security team members. I carry (for the last 18 years at church) but had to get a letter back in April 2019 allowing me to carry. I would be interested to see the workings of a legal fight where the informal security team (all LTC carriers) v. a visiting LTC carrier (not allowed by the 30.06/30.07 signage and lack of permission).
I was impressed with this point as Lynyrd was able to do some conversion of anti-gunners. Another interesting similar episode was when I was talking to one of the smaller church's pastor in the are (happens to be a family member). He said he did not know how he would feel w/ LTC carriers carrying in his church; basically not sure he would allow. I simply stated, no need to wonder, any time I have been in your church I have been carrying (no signage). He kept saying he did not know how he felt.
My contention is that I really should not have to change the mind of pro-2nd amendment individuals. In truth, many of these people still have not had the enlightening experience that Lynyrd talked about. Sending a letter to my pastor today via snail mail today; tough because I have been going here almost 40 years. Hope it pays off and only have about a year of patience.
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- Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:42 pm
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- Topic: Patience Paid Off
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Re: Patience Paid Off
That is great. I had mentioned in another thread that my house of worship has 30.06/.07 signage. This was implemented by our informal security leader who is retired career Army.
Rationale: I don’t want individuals I do not approve of carrying a weapon, would be my guess. Do not want chaos in an active shooter situation.
I am still arguing this and am in the process of writing a letter to clergy. I spoke to another member of the security team who was also retired Army about the signs and he said he just did not feel strongly about the issue.
I kept thinking, both of these gentlemen took an oath to the US Constitution yet their actions are violating this oath in respect to infringing on 2nd amendment rights; at least in spirit as the US Constitution can be construed as limiting the Federal government. That being said, I believe those rights precede the US Constitution and are God given natural rights.
I have also been looking at the Texas Constitution which I believe states,
“Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”
Regardless, great job and hoping I can convert some of those who are supposed to be converted. Not going to try my place of employment, to Corporate and woke.
Rationale: I don’t want individuals I do not approve of carrying a weapon, would be my guess. Do not want chaos in an active shooter situation.
I am still arguing this and am in the process of writing a letter to clergy. I spoke to another member of the security team who was also retired Army about the signs and he said he just did not feel strongly about the issue.
I kept thinking, both of these gentlemen took an oath to the US Constitution yet their actions are violating this oath in respect to infringing on 2nd amendment rights; at least in spirit as the US Constitution can be construed as limiting the Federal government. That being said, I believe those rights precede the US Constitution and are God given natural rights.
I have also been looking at the Texas Constitution which I believe states,
“Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”
Regardless, great job and hoping I can convert some of those who are supposed to be converted. Not going to try my place of employment, to Corporate and woke.