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SewTexas wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:24 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:54 am This image has been floating around FB. I saw some video too of that encounter. So not only does the actual video footage prove Bonnen is a liar, but apparently when activists went passing out flyers in support of HB357 in his neighborhood and deliberately avoiding going to his house or stepping on his property Bonnen came out on the sidewalk to question them about what they are doing in his neighborhood. Now keep in mind, this is someone that claims the people doing this are giving him "death threats" and threatening his family. So what does someone that has death threats against him and his family do? Come out to the sidewalk in shorts and a Tshirt with a drink in his hand to confront them. Not call DPS to come investigate the "threatening" ones, not staying inside to be safe, but coming out and asking them a bunch of questions. That's how you know this is bull he isn't acting like he's actually concerned about them other than they make him look bad.

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don't you know? he doesn't just own HIS property, he own's the entire neighborhood!

Ha Ha, guess I didn't.

This image has been floating around FB. I saw some video too of that encounter. So not only does the actual video footage prove Bonnen is a liar, but apparently when activists went passing out flyers in support of HB357 in his neighborhood and deliberately avoiding going to his house or stepping on his property Bonnen came out on the sidewalk to question them about what they are doing in his neighborhood. Now keep in mind, this is someone that claims the people doing this are giving him "death threats" and threatening his family. So what does someone that has death threats against him and his family do? Come out to the sidewalk in shorts and a Tshirt with a drink in his hand to confront them. Not call DPS to come investigate the "threatening" ones, not staying inside to be safe, but coming out and asking them a bunch of questions. That's how you know this is bull he isn't acting like he's actually concerned about them other than they make him look bad.

mojo84 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm Why are they implying flying commercially proves he didn't have a gun with him?

Why did the DPS Troopers offer to do the work of a political activist while they were on duty?

As was pointed out the records show he didn't check a weapon. Also considering Bonnen's wife was apparently either not home or didn't see him at her door her story of him "brandishing a machine gun" seems to be falling apart. "Work"? So when they are already standing around in front of his house it was "work" to put the flyer on the door he was already watching? I am more concerned about why the speaker gets to pull DPS to sit on his house when there is no credible threat to him or his family. I am also more concerned that those that are siding with Bonnen and apparently don't believe their own eyes are still convinced those DPS officers are totally incompetent and willing to let someone brandishing a weapon at the speaker's wife and trespassing on his property actually helped him and let him go without arrest. That's a rather insulting view of those officers.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:51 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:47 am

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:31 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:21 am Interesting, a friend of mine shared this post apparently from a 74 year old woman that was one of 5 people out there this weekend. Apparently, according to those that were there they didn't even go to Bonnen's house, which, if you read Bonnen's rant it is consistent since I am sure he would have said they did come to his door again if they did. I think it's valid to hear from someone on the other side that was there. Her name is the first part of the post so it would be easy to look her up if you wanted to. These are all quotes from her.

"From Sandi Curtis
Drama queen Dennis is a liberal fudger. I'd heard about his fudging and now, I can say I've personally experienced his fudging. (A fudger is someone who says things that have a little truth mixed with a whole lot of big, fat lies). Here are the True Facts of what happened in his neighborhood, yesterday around 3:00 p.m. FACT #1: I am one of the five, Constitutional Conservative, Republican, citizens of Texas who thought the voters, who elected Diva Dennis, needed to know how he is representing them. We went to his neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods and Put A Post Card On Their Doors that said he was refusing to protect their 2nd Constitutional Ammendment. FACT #2: We DID NOT KNOCK ON ANY DOORS and NEVER PLACED ANYTHING ON HIS PROPERTY. FACT#3: Diva Dennis did walk out of his house, as we walked past his property, and wanted to know what we were doing. FACT#4: None of us spoke to Diva Dennis because we didn't want any drama. FACT#5: The only people we spoke to were ones that were outside their house and we asked if we could give them our post card. We were respectful and courteous to everyone. FACT# 6: Except for 1 person, every single person we spoke to was kind and willingly received our information. FACT # 7: We were out of Diva Dennis' neighborhood in less than 2 hours. FACT # 8: I did see a law officer in his patrol car sitting in front of Diva Dennis' house. I guess they didn't consider us a threat to his safety nor that we were breaking any laws because they never approached any of us. I do question why Texas Tax Payers are having to pay for Diva Dennis' drama antics and fudging. The next time someone comes on my property and wants me to vote for them or their candidate, can I claim I'm being threatened and get free, state law enforcement protection? I'm 74 years young and, believe me, I've had a lot of politicians knocking on my door, calling me and sending me gobs of mail to seek my vote or support. I could call that harassment but it's The American Process of Electing a Public Servant. I want to know, in writing, what they promise so I can hold them to it. FACT #9: Diva Dennis ran as a Republican and promised to protect our 2nd U.S. Constitutional Ammendment gun rights. Why then did he FACT #10: Appoint a Democrat and passionate, anti-gun proponent as Chairman of the Texas House Gun Control Committee and FACT #11: Announce that NO PRO-GUN RIGHTS LAWS WILL BE CONSIDERED WHILE HE, DIVA DENNIS BONNEN, IS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES . FACT #12: This, dear reader, is why 5 Texas, Constitutional Conservative Republicans passed out post cards that exposed the truth about Diva, Fudge Talking, House of Representatives, District 45, Dennis Bonnen. We hope it will cause them to question and research if they are getting what they voted for."

The two highlighted "facts" are not facts.

Fact 10: Speaker Bonnen appointed Representative Nevarez as chairman of the House Homeland Security & Public Safety committee. There is no "Texas House Gun Control committee".
Fact 11: Speaker Bonnen stated in a Facebook post: "But as they say, talk is cheap... So the final test will be what does or doesn’t happen when the gavel falls at the end of the 86th Legislative Session. I’ll bet my critics an AR-15 that their gun rights won’t be infringed. In the meantime I’ll be working with the tried-and-true gun rights organizations to see if we might be able to actually strengthen the rights for those of us who are responsible gun owners.

Sure, feel free to look up the lady that wrote that and disagree with her. I don't know what #11 was about but with Panic Button Pancho in charge of the committee and looking at all of the gun control bills he has put up for a hearing I don't think it's inaccurate to characterize it as a gun control committee.

It does MUCH more than just "gun control". Point is, if I can quickly find issues with 2 of the 12 "facts", it is easy to just dismiss the whole thing as a crazy rant by a gun nut.

Of course it does, your point is pretty weak. I think most people would agree that someone is far more accurate with what they are personally experiencing than their interpretation of some legislative body. If your dismiss her personal statements about what her activities were when you have no factual reason to dispute her first hand account other than you don't like the way she explained one committee then I would tend to think you are looking for a reason.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:31 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:21 am Interesting, a friend of mine shared this post apparently from a 74 year old woman that was one of 5 people out there this weekend. Apparently, according to those that were there they didn't even go to Bonnen's house, which, if you read Bonnen's rant it is consistent since I am sure he would have said they did come to his door again if they did. I think it's valid to hear from someone on the other side that was there. Her name is the first part of the post so it would be easy to look her up if you wanted to. These are all quotes from her.

"From Sandi Curtis
Drama queen Dennis is a liberal fudger. I'd heard about his fudging and now, I can say I've personally experienced his fudging. (A fudger is someone who says things that have a little truth mixed with a whole lot of big, fat lies). Here are the True Facts of what happened in his neighborhood, yesterday around 3:00 p.m. FACT #1: I am one of the five, Constitutional Conservative, Republican, citizens of Texas who thought the voters, who elected Diva Dennis, needed to know how he is representing them. We went to his neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods and Put A Post Card On Their Doors that said he was refusing to protect their 2nd Constitutional Ammendment. FACT #2: We DID NOT KNOCK ON ANY DOORS and NEVER PLACED ANYTHING ON HIS PROPERTY. FACT#3: Diva Dennis did walk out of his house, as we walked past his property, and wanted to know what we were doing. FACT#4: None of us spoke to Diva Dennis because we didn't want any drama. FACT#5: The only people we spoke to were ones that were outside their house and we asked if we could give them our post card. We were respectful and courteous to everyone. FACT# 6: Except for 1 person, every single person we spoke to was kind and willingly received our information. FACT # 7: We were out of Diva Dennis' neighborhood in less than 2 hours. FACT # 8: I did see a law officer in his patrol car sitting in front of Diva Dennis' house. I guess they didn't consider us a threat to his safety nor that we were breaking any laws because they never approached any of us. I do question why Texas Tax Payers are having to pay for Diva Dennis' drama antics and fudging. The next time someone comes on my property and wants me to vote for them or their candidate, can I claim I'm being threatened and get free, state law enforcement protection? I'm 74 years young and, believe me, I've had a lot of politicians knocking on my door, calling me and sending me gobs of mail to seek my vote or support. I could call that harassment but it's The American Process of Electing a Public Servant. I want to know, in writing, what they promise so I can hold them to it. FACT #9: Diva Dennis ran as a Republican and promised to protect our 2nd U.S. Constitutional Ammendment gun rights. Why then did he FACT #10: Appoint a Democrat and passionate, anti-gun proponent as Chairman of the Texas House Gun Control Committee and FACT #11: Announce that NO PRO-GUN RIGHTS LAWS WILL BE CONSIDERED WHILE HE, DIVA DENNIS BONNEN, IS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES . FACT #12: This, dear reader, is why 5 Texas, Constitutional Conservative Republicans passed out post cards that exposed the truth about Diva, Fudge Talking, House of Representatives, District 45, Dennis Bonnen. We hope it will cause them to question and research if they are getting what they voted for."

The two highlighted "facts" are not facts.

Fact 10: Speaker Bonnen appointed Representative Nevarez as chairman of the House Homeland Security & Public Safety committee. There is no "Texas House Gun Control committee".
Fact 11: Speaker Bonnen stated in a Facebook post: "But as they say, talk is cheap... So the final test will be what does or doesn’t happen when the gavel falls at the end of the 86th Legislative Session. I’ll bet my critics an AR-15 that their gun rights won’t be infringed. In the meantime I’ll be working with the tried-and-true gun rights organizations to see if we might be able to actually strengthen the rights for those of us who are responsible gun owners.

Sure, feel free to look up the lady that wrote that and disagree with her. I don't know what #11 was about but with Panic Button Pancho in charge of the committee and looking at all of the gun control bills he has put up for a hearing I don't think it's inaccurate to characterize it as a gun control committee. And either way those "facts" don't concern me on this topic, the first hand account of what they were doing does.

Grumpy1993 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:43 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:29 am

1911 Raptor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 am

SigSour wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:58 pm Dennis doubles down on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/RepDennisBonne ... 9433666534

Right on his Facebook page Dennis is defending himself by saying the NRA has rated him an A! This is the problem that needs addressing!

Don't hold your breath. I don't think the RPT will issue any statement distancing itself from him over his attack and single handed killing of the number one legislative priority of the party either.

At this point I assume he speaks for all Republican elected officials when he lies about felons and guns, except for the politicians who publicly repudiated his lies this month. No matter what spin they try to put on it after the session is over, I will remember next year what they did when it mattered. I will remember their true feelings about the right to keep and bear arms, and the civil rights of the innocent.

Good, I will too, I am a delegate to the convention every year and it will for sure come up even if I am the only one to say it. I hope his local party initiates a rule 44 on him after this.

Interesting, a friend of mine shared this post apparently from a 74 year old woman that was one of 5 people out there this weekend. Apparently, according to those that were there they didn't even go to Bonnen's house, which, if you read Bonnen's rant it is consistent since I am sure he would have said they did come to his door again if they did. I think it's valid to hear from someone on the other side that was there. Her name is the first part of the post so it would be easy to look her up if you wanted to. These are all quotes from her.

"From Sandi Curtis
Drama queen Dennis is a liberal fudger. I'd heard about his fudging and now, I can say I've personally experienced his fudging. (A fudger is someone who says things that have a little truth mixed with a whole lot of big, fat lies). Here are the True Facts of what happened in his neighborhood, yesterday around 3:00 p.m. FACT #1: I am one of the five, Constitutional Conservative, Republican, citizens of Texas who thought the voters, who elected Diva Dennis, needed to know how he is representing them. We went to his neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods and Put A Post Card On Their Doors that said he was refusing to protect their 2nd Constitutional Ammendment. FACT #2: We DID NOT KNOCK ON ANY DOORS and NEVER PLACED ANYTHING ON HIS PROPERTY. FACT#3: Diva Dennis did walk out of his house, as we walked past his property, and wanted to know what we were doing. FACT#4: None of us spoke to Diva Dennis because we didn't want any drama. FACT#5: The only people we spoke to were ones that were outside their house and we asked if we could give them our post card. We were respectful and courteous to everyone. FACT# 6: Except for 1 person, every single person we spoke to was kind and willingly received our information. FACT # 7: We were out of Diva Dennis' neighborhood in less than 2 hours. FACT # 8: I did see a law officer in his patrol car sitting in front of Diva Dennis' house. I guess they didn't consider us a threat to his safety nor that we were breaking any laws because they never approached any of us. I do question why Texas Tax Payers are having to pay for Diva Dennis' drama antics and fudging. The next time someone comes on my property and wants me to vote for them or their candidate, can I claim I'm being threatened and get free, state law enforcement protection? I'm 74 years young and, believe me, I've had a lot of politicians knocking on my door, calling me and sending me gobs of mail to seek my vote or support. I could call that harassment but it's The American Process of Electing a Public Servant. I want to know, in writing, what they promise so I can hold them to it. FACT #9: Diva Dennis ran as a Republican and promised to protect our 2nd U.S. Constitutional Ammendment gun rights. Why then did he FACT #10: Appoint a Democrat and passionate, anti-gun proponent as Chairman of the Texas House Gun Control Committee and FACT #11: Announce that NO PRO-GUN RIGHTS LAWS WILL BE CONSIDERED WHILE HE, DIVA DENNIS BONNEN, IS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES . FACT #12: This, dear reader, is why 5 Texas, Constitutional Conservative Republicans passed out post cards that exposed the truth about Diva, Fudge Talking, House of Representatives, District 45, Dennis Bonnen. We hope it will cause them to question and research if they are getting what they voted for."

1911 Raptor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 am

SigSour wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:58 pm Dennis doubles down on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/RepDennisBonne ... 9433666534

Right on his Facebook page Dennis is defending himself by saying the NRA has rated him an A! This is the problem that needs addressing!

Don't hold your breath. I don't think the RPT will issue any statement distancing itself from him over his attack and single handed killing of the number one legislative priority of the party either.

MaduroBU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:06 am

baytownb wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:06 am

MaduroBU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Bonnen's lies are immaterial to McNutt's foolishness.

Precisely what is "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse"? Passing out flyers to contact the speaker and other key politicians to support a gun rights issue or him walking up to DPS and handing them a flyer to put on his door along with the hundreds of others he was passing out while never stepping foot on his property? Which one of those two known actions is so horrible to you? Have you ever said it was "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse" when the same politicians come to our houses with political material? If not why do you think politicians have special privileges to engage in what you call "personal and outside of acceptable political discourse"?

State elected officials all maintain "contact me" options online. Mcnutt may not like that, but that's the accepted pathway. Showing up at a stranger's door from across the state is not "handing out fliers, and we would all condemn that behavior if anti gun nutters did it to pro gun Congressmen.

Handing out fliers is EXCATLY what he was doing. Did you watch the DPS camera footage? So no answer on why you think politicians are fine to come to our door to ask for our vote but asking DPS to put a flyer you are passing out in the neighborhood on a politicians door is something to be condemned? I can't even imagine the warped sense of values that produced that thought. I wouldn't care if anti gunners passed out flyers in their neighborhood either other than I disagree with their message. You seem to have forgotten who the politicians work for.

MaduroBU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Bonnen's lies are immaterial to McNutt's foolishness.

Precisely what is "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse"? Passing out flyers to contact the speaker and other key politicians to support a gun rights issue or him walking up to DPS and handing them a flyer to put on his door along with the hundreds of others he was passing out while never stepping foot on his property? Which one of those two known actions is so horrible to you? Have you ever said it was "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse" when the same politicians come to our houses with political material? If not why do you think politicians have special privileges to engage in what you call "personal and outside of acceptable political discourse"?

They did a press conference yesterday and he again stated he was not armed. Also, as you said he flew in and rented a car, said the flight records would show he didn't check a gun. Sure as heck didn't have a "machine gun" as Bonnen's wife who apparently never even saw him was quoted as saying. All I have to do is look how DPS was acting with him. They CLEARLY saw nothing wrong with his behavior and didn't see it as intimidating at all. They appeared to enjoy talking to him. I trust DPS and if they didn't see any reason to ask him more questions or detain him and actually helped him put the flyer on his door and took one for themselves then who are any of us to say essentially that DPS was incompetent and let a threatening pyscho that was threatening Bonnen go? Because that's what you have to believe if you think what he did was threatening or dangerous.

There is absolutely ZERO wrong with going to put a flyer on a politician's door at their home whether they are there or not. Actually not even anything wrong with knocking on the door and talking about the issue with anyone that chose to answer the door (which didn't even happen) these politicians aren't Gods or emperor's that can't be bothered to be soiled by the presence of the people they want to rule. They sure as hell don't have a problem coming to MY door when I am not home and leaving literature on my door or knocking on it to talk to me about voting for them. Someone explain to me why you think THAT is no problem but us doing the same thing is a problem.

That being said, if ANYTHING about him being armed, harassing his wife or anything like that were true I would be against it and say it's wrong but that didn't happen. Also, I personally wouldn't have done it simply because it gave Bonnen the chance to do what he did. So it was bad strategy even if there is actually nothing wrong with doing it.

In the end Bonnen is demonstrated liar and should be removed from office however soon that can be and censured by the RPT. The act of putting one of the worst DemonRAT anti gun reps as the chair is reason enough. I am telling my rep and any others I talk to that they have to make Bonnen a one term speaker next session or I will withhold my vote and funds from them.